Is international travel/opportunity really that much more at MBB than Big4? Would love to hear some of your experiences

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Also international travel actually sucks in consulting, it’s the least glamorous thing possible

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McKinsey yes, BCG Bain no

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Pretty easy to at BCG - I don’t know anyone who’s wanted to get international experience (and is willing to make the trade offs for it like not coming back every weekend) who hasn’t been able to get it. Agree with others on some of the trade offs of course.

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OP, short answer yes. Even all these Deloitters that pretend that there are tons of opportunities are way off base (former Monitor). Simple reason being that McKinsey charges higher ADRs GLOBALLY vs other big 4 having localized “discounted rates” and employee cost. In other words an engagement sold in APAC will probably be sold with the rate sheet of Asian resources who are significantly cheaper than a US consultant, who are the most expensive resources in the world by far in the big 4 world. Can you travel repeatably at Deloitte international if you wanted to? Absolutely not, so don’t mislead OP...smh.

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All my international travel projects have been “work 80+ hours a week, including through the weekend, on 9-12 hour jet lag, and you didn’t really have a previous weekend either because you needed to fly out” and then you lose the weekend on the way back too.

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Over 4 years at the firm, I have had multiple international studies. Not usual but also not unheard off. It depends on the area you are interested and staffing availability when one comes up for staffing

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Wayyyy more likely at McK than Bain/BCG, but international consulting travel is generally brutal...work conditions (weekends, hours, client dynamics) and logistics. You have to fly out frequently or stay there for weeks at a time - the latter sounds good, but reality means you work a ton and don’t have a ton of down time outside of work.

Bainies have the option to do a six month transfer to an international office, which usually satisfies the travel bug while keeping you safer from tougher projects 😊

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I did 2 studies abroad (Asia and Europe) and 3 studies with 1 workshop abroad. Everyone who wants to can travel abroad. If you are good at your job, you’ll get all kinds of opportunities. I’ve staffed people from other countries several times because they are the best person for the workstream available at the moment.

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I’ve already had opportunities but turned them down fwiw

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Why do you say that? I feel like I’d love to travel

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You can get on international projects easy at Deloitte. But as others have alluded to here, you will miss things with family and friends back home and if you are traveling back and forth the long flights get old real fast

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6 months after starting at pwc I traveled to Dublin and worked on client site. Pretty great experience overall though we did work long and late. I think more international opportunities,open up the more senior,you are

Spent about 2.5 of my 6 years at D abroad, had the option of doing longer but tough when not single. Helps if you have a unique skillset (language pair or tool) that is in demand. Projects tend to be pretty posh compared to what I've done in the states in terms of hotels, alt travel opps, etc.

I've seen international travel most frequently in post merger integration work for what it's worth. In terms of clients primarily pharma/medical and industrials.

@D1, were you doing 3/4/5? Sounds like inefficient planning by leadership if you're traveling 9-12 time zones away, better (and cheaper) to work from the other country for a few weeks instead

Been at D for a year now and have been back and forth between China and the US for 1/3rd of the time. A lot of it depends on if you have the skillset the team is looking for and if you’re willing to commit to the back and forth.

D1 is right. I went to India to work with USI for some time and my work days were 10 AM - 1 AM the next day. Exhausting.

Plenty of opportunities with Deloitte and agree that I’ve usually seen it as part of post-merger integration

@A1 okay

A1 not true at all. That said, we’re usually hired by USA firms (not always), that have international presence as opposed to directly for foreign firms. Me and most people in my office have been international several times.

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