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is it a red flag to you if your decently sized mid law firm has never once mentioned pro bono opportunities? we don’t have any kind of diversity initiative either and obviously i know how i feel about THAT. but was wondering how weird this part of it is.

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I don’t think so. I’m at a mid-size firm & the responsibility to find pro bono opportunities has always been on the attorney. The firm does have a relationship with one local non-profit, which sometimes results in some pro bono work, but otherwise the attorneys find our own opportunities through the state/local bar or through word of mouth. The firm never really mentions it. I guess I always assumed that was true at all firms - but maybe I’m wrong!

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No red flag. Most lawyers where I work have a particular pro bono program they are in, which is listed in their bio section. I’d check there before concluding that the firm attorneys aren’t involved in pro bono work. But even then, I’ve helped on tasks pro bono that no one publicized. Some firms are just showier and louder than others about pro bono.

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Hmmm who knows! I’d go with your gut feel of whether the firm would be a good fit for you.

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Depends, but in my experience firms only tout Pro Bono if they think clients will care. Our clients are corps that don't care, so we don't publicize our pro bono work but instead publicize all about our industry connections.

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that’s an interesting thought. we work for insurers and big corps that don’t care lol so that might be why

I work for a big insurance defense firm and they prioritize And let your pro Bono count as billables. They are extremely passionate about immigration removal proceedings for children and partner with an organization

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If you ever want to bring it to your firm, look into safe passage way. You don’t need to have a background or any knowledge of immigration law. Counsel for the organization hold your hand through it: you’re doing extremely meaningful work and keeping these literally children here vs standing in front of a judge alone where they have a 10% chance of somehow staying without representation

Those things are both very important to me, so I wouldn’t have an interest in working at place that didn’t do that type of stuff but resources can be very different at mid size firms. If it’s important to you and you think the firm would be receptive, maybe pitch some ideas for programs. It may not be that the firm doesn’t care about those things. Maybe there just hasn’t been someone who has taken the initiative to build up those programs. With respect to pro bono, that’s always something you can do on your own. But you’ll likely need firm approval/support. I don’t think it’s necessarily a red flag but if those things are important to you, maybe look into ways you can change it. If you think the firm wouldn’t support your interest in those initiatives, then that might be a red flag.

I’m sorry to hear that. My firm strongly encourages pro bono work and you get up to 100 hours of it counted towards your billable requirement. They also have a robust diversity initiative both in terms of summer associates and lateral attorneys. I worked at an insurance defense firm previously and they also had these types of programs. They didn’t do as much as they could have in my opinion but they at least put in some effort. It takes a lot of time and effort to maintain these programs but it’s so worth it and I’d be very disappointed to be at a firm that didn’t show an interest in those things. Are you happy there otherwise?

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