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I'll take any call if it gives me an opportunity to share comp numbers that are above what companies believe to be "market rate".
Cast a wide net. Several years ago, I would say, "I'm looking to make between $150-200k".
Occasionally they'd laugh, other times they'd go silent or say that's not in their budget. Eventually they'd say, "I need to check with the hiring manager", later it became, "Great, when can you come onsite?" Finally, there was an offer. And another. And another.
Know your worth. Claim it. Own it.
Yes I always ask before the call
"In view of time efficiency, may I please ask what the salary bracket for the role is"?
And if I'm feeling bold I just straight up say "thank you for your interest in my CV.... and that I'm looking for a minimum of X salary.
I agree. I’ve thanked them and then let them know what my minimum salary expectation is and almost all will tell you whether the posting is either within your range or below. Sometimes, they will tell you the exact numbers.
It's up to everyone to stop making it seem like a rude question. If everyone asks it'll just become the norm
Most importantly (IMO) never show your hands first. Never give them your expected salary. If they ask, I always say something like… “what is the salary range for this position?”… “I am sure we can come up with an amount/comp package that is equitable to my skills and work history”.
By showing your hand first you may be leaving money on the table. Also don’t be afraid to negotiate. There is always room to negotiate. Base comp, sign on bonus, equity, etc. remember that YOU are the prize and they are courting you! The worst they can say is “this is the best we can do”. If instead they rescind your job offer (which I have never seen happen personally), then this is a place you probably don’t want to work anyways. 😀
It isn’t rude! You need to know so you can make an informed decision.
Don’t believe it is rude. Have a friend that interviewed for a job. They said they wanted to pay $75k, she asked $90k; she just negotiated and accepted at $86k! Know your worth - some times though they’re posting low if you’re the one they will do what they need to bring you in.
My apologies. If that’s what you’re referring to. ABSOLUTELY! The recruiter should be willing to divulge that info. No need to play games.
I never entertain recruiters longer than 15 minutes without knowing the compensation including base salary or range. Never.
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Thank you for all of your inputs! I’m glad more people are talking about salary in the beginning. As a quick update, one recruiter decided to ghost me when I asked about salary which doesn’t bother me. I’m pretty happy in my current job and I’m fully remote so it would’ve taken a big jump for me to leave.
I think it’s very valid. My company has a long interview process and if you go through the many rounds to find out you’re not anywhere near you’re settling amount, you lost too much time and energy.
Always ask. Hold your self high, you know your value. If they provide resistsnce to sharing the salary it means it's probably low and they want to get you excited about the company before sharing the bad news. I always pass on things when they won't give me a number.
I ask the salary range & culture in my first call. I don’t want to waste anyone’s time. Also be firm with your expectations. EAs are traditionally underpaid and overworked so know your value and don’t settle. Best of luck to you!
I always always ask before taking a phone call or anything from them. I don't want to waste my time or theirs.
Always don’t want to waste their time or mine!
No! There are ways to ask that are more graceful than others but definitely, in this job market, there are too many options for job seekers for employers/recruiters to be coy about salary. Those days are over. You can save yourself and the employer lots of time and stress by knowing if they can meet your requirements or not.
I’m a corporate recruiter myself and I always add the compensation in my messaging so I don’t waste their time or mine, buuuuut as somebody who is interested in moving to a new company and gets multiple messages on LI for new roles, I have yet to see another recruiter add the compensation in their messaging. I ask for it EVERY time.
I agree it’s best to know early on. I wish companies at least posted the minimum salary in job listings. Save everyone some time.
At least ask for a range before going after it. But sometimes after meeting you and your rock the interview they are willing to offer more. It’s a balancing act.
It isn’t. Time is money so before getting into discussions and tiptoeing around the numbers, ask directly but politely and you’ll likely avoid wasting both your time and the recruiter’s.