Is it ever too early to make partner? I left a senior associate position after 2.5 years as I was miserable. I’m coming up on 2 years with a solo, who approached me about my interest in partnership. I’ve only been licensed 5 years.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

I’m confused… based on your numbers you left a “senior associate position” - what in your 3rd year?

Yeah. That first firm, titles didn’t mean squat. I’ve been small firm my whole career. Put in 6 months under a solo and hated it so much that I left without the next gig. Was unemployed 4 months and was desperate for $. Started for a firm that had the owner, one associate in another practice area and hired me for everything but that area. It was miserable and I wanted out. Then we were due to merge and I stayed. Things got better, so I put in another 15 months. In the interim, my practice area got busy enough for a 2nd associate. The original associate, who eventually left, essentially demanded the senior title so I’d know my place. So I got it when there was another, less experienced atty, in my practice group.

The question is not so much is it too early, it is what is your revenue, how does the revenue share work, and is this what you want to do, and where you want to be for the foreseeable future? If partnership in the context of what, where, and comp causes you to shiver in displeasure, dust off the resume... If not, the next question is what is the buy-in for partnership?
I have a colleague that was so happy with his associate that he made him a partner after 3.5 years of total practice. That's too soon for my tastes, but to each his own...

I agree with the comment above. In family law the firms are typically smaller so partnership is less regimented in terms of years out. Our partners promoted me to partner this year after I had worked for them for 4 years (licensed for a little over 5). I would ask to see their proposal re: what partnership means- income or revenue sharing partnership, liability, etc.

It’s never too early. People go solo or start partnerships straight out of law school. Being a partner has its plus and minuses like anything else.

Related Posts

I am moving to Bucks County, PA in a few months after my graduation. My dream is to open a bookstore but for now I want to find a job in one. Does anyone have recommendations for places hiring? Do you have a recommendation about interviewing for a bookstore job?

like

I’m looking to transition from Project Management in the International Development/Non-profit space to project/product management in the private sector, mostly the tech space. Has anyone else made this transition and willing to give some tips/advice?

like
like

My company is giving me a reimbursement while I go to school. It’s capped to induce me to study part time. I decided to go full time. Pay the difference out of pocket so I can graduate quicker. I have been working as a manufacturing engineer tech for 4 years without a degree but this May I will get my bachelors in Mechanical Eng. Currently making 63k a year, hourly. What should I ask for when I graduate? Living in Southern Pennsylvania.

like

What are some companies that hire attorneys fully remote with 3-5 YOE? Even if there are not openings currently, I am curious to know so I can keep my eyes peeled for openings that may come up.

like

Anyone is a tech role in healthcare ? If so what is your title so you enjoy it?

like

Hi All,

My sister is searching for a job. She is currently working as PMO in Infosys from last 2 years (she has only 2 years experience). Can someone please provide referral for PMO role in Capgemini Pune?

Thanks in advance... 😊

like

I've been in merchant sales for a large bank the last several years looking to do a pivot. Any suggestions for a sales position for someone who's done outside sales for years but not in the tech industry?

like

Hey, I’m from Canada, and originally from London, UK

I’ve been in the tech sales industry for around 5 years now and am looking for a mentor to pick their mind in just experience, how they found progression, what they’d recommend and just a push as a whole

Is anyone interested in being a mentor at all?

like

Full Loop at Meta is scheduled. I’m interested but I don’t feel like I know enough about the role. What questions did you ask or do you wish you would have asked your interviewers?

Hi Fishies!

Is anyone hiring for senior level roles for forensic data analytics?

like

Looking for twitter referral. Anyone can help?

Thanks

like

Anyone at Google willing to refer? I want to apply to a role I’m interested in. Thanks in advance! 🙏🏽 Google

like

Senior PM role at a tech consulting group offering 120 tc. No sign on, no bonus. Is this a reasonable offer?

like

I am a technical person having 5.4 years experience as a software developer.
I want to transition my career from technical to project management line.
Any tips regarding the same.
Can i directly apply for PMO positions?

like

I’m currently in the process of being converted from contractor to permanent. In my initial conversations I was under the impression that I was in a different pay grade and asked for a salary 25k higher than the max allotted for my position. I feel like it gave the impression that I don’t know what I’m doing. Any suggestion how I can recover from this?

like

Hello everyone, my friend is having Phd in chemistry. She wanted to move to IT industry. Is that possible by having some certificate courses in data science?
Kindly share your thoughts

like

Might be starting at a small agency as a full time Junior AD soon, fingers crossed. It's my first full time position since WFH began.

Other ADs who have transitioned to WFH, what equipment do I absolutely need in my at home workspace? And how should I bring it up?

Thanks in advance!

I currently have a 2015 MacBook Pro that’s running on fumes. An Wacom Intuos Pro. A mouse. A few external hard drives. And a second screen.

like

Any Stanford MBA alumni here? Please share your thoughts on the program. Is it possible to work and to do MBA at the same time? Also, did the program really boost your leadership skills? Thank you.

like

More Posts

Does anyone else feel burned out working from home?

like

Hi all, I’m currently a solution architect with 1yoe and two bachelors degrees. I also hold two cloud certifications and make 60k a year. This seems very low considering what I’ve seen for average SA salaries for those who hold the AWS SAA certification. Was hoping for some insight on this and if I should seek more compensation. Thanks!

like

Hi Guys , how is KPMG singapore in general. I am currently in deloitte india, and have an opportunity at KPMG Singapore. Shall i make the move)

like

Best SG agency for a good life?

like

What does sales operations really mean? Thoughts on sales ops at amazon?

like

I am thinking of making the jump from SLP to healthcare administration. Looking for insight on pay, job opportunities and job satisfaction. Thank you!!!

like

Any administrative assistants currently working at Molina healthcare right now??
I have questions…

like

Anyone from intelligent automation or RPA Team got their hike?

like

Hello Folks,
Can anyone refer me for a QA Role in PWC or KPMG.

like

Any trust and estate attorney openings in Texas?

like

How much bonus did coforge pay in year 2022? 100%?

like

I’m good at conceptualising — but how can I become a better writer?
I saw some copywriting courses on ‘42 courses’. Does anyone have any experience with their courses? Or have any other recommendations?

like

I’m looking for a new job, working remotely, that doesn’t require a Bachelor’s. (I’m currently going back to school to get one, as I only have an Associate’s in Mathematics right now)
I had positions in private sector that allowed me to supplement having a degree with experience but not in public sector. I’ve seen coworkers get positions they aren’t able to do simply because they have a degree and then leave a mess for me to clean up but I’m not allowed to have the position. Any suggestions?

like

Anyone joined NatWest recently..?

like

Are there actually tax cuts switching from home office in NYC to Hoboken?

like

I have heard very less flow of work in PWC AC’s. Does this mean recession impact has begun and they can start terminating employees on bench???

like

Whenever I hear debates from the radical left and conservative right on gun control, it's always about Chicago being a war zone. It's crazy how far removed I am from it all in the suburbs. Kind of makes me feel a bit bad like I'm not really contributing to a better Chicago

like

Hi Sharks,

Could anyone please refer me to
Capgemini Pune?

YOE - 8 months excluding 6 months full time internship.

Skill set - SQL, Python, PowerBI, Tableau, Alteryx, Machine Learning, Deep Learning, ETL, Datawarehousing.

Interested roles - Data Analyst, Data Engineer, ETL Developer, Datawarehouse Developer, BI Developer, BI Reporting.

Thank you in advance.

like

I wish I was overemployed. Searching for gigs, but nothing yet. Any tips on how to get one or more extra jobs?

like

Additional Posts in Family Law

Let's talk unhinged pro se opposing parties. We have one that emails the entire firm every few days with these SCREEDS that are like weird stream of consciousness accusations of baseless criminal and unethical conduct. So far there have been 2 emails already today. A GAL has been appointed and ordered to do a psych eval on this party, but is there any sense in responding in the mean time? Everything we say seems to get twisted.

like

In OAH the NCP has submitted no actual earnings only hand written sched c (Uber). NCP lied under oath about how pmt for the car was made. Said a friend paid for it and he is paying a friend back. I have bank evidence that shows every car pmt came from NCP Bank and only deposits were from Uber. Problem is the car was paid off in 2018 and the CSO was from 2018. CP asked 4 mod and it was brought up to ? his credibility. How do I get it in since its not about $ now? Judge granted 1wk 4 adtl exhibits

like

Looking for an attorney located in TX bell county for association for pro hac Vice application and a filing to transfer case to OH. Have TX bar authorization letter. Case should get transferred as neither party has been in TX for at least 5 years, domestic case.

like
like

I’m not designated a senior associate, but my small firm (boss, myself, and a paralegal) is hiring a recent grad. Still needs to pass the hazing ritual (aka bar exam). I will be supervising the new hire. Should I get them a welcome aboard gift or wait for exam results and get a welcome to the club gift? Or both? Ideas for either or both?

like

Solos - how did you know when you were ready to hire a FT attorney?

like

Pivoting from five years of insurance defense litigation at a mid-size firm to family law in a small/boutique firm (3 partners and about 4 associates). What do you wish you knew when you first entered the field? Any advice is appreciated! So excited for this leap of faith into what I truly believe is my calling.

like

Working on a divorce where the father is claiming that he is unemployed because of the previous administration’s actions with DACA (he was brought to the States as a child). I know that the memo rescinding DACA was ultimately vacated—but OC is unsure whether this would count as voluntary unemployment for child support purposes. I believe it does as the application period to renew DACA benefits was reopened in 2020. Thoughts?

like

If my clients are the firm’s clients, it’s up to the firm to let them know I am leaving right? I’m leaving for a government position so I can’t take them with me anyway.

like

What is your hours worked to hours billed ratio?

like

I’m looking for recommendations for a divorce lawyer in Ohio (near Cleveland) for a relative. She will also potentially need help locating hidden assets. Thanks in advance!

likesmart

Can we talk about Rates?
What is your:
1) hourly rate
2) years of practice
3) size firm
4) state

My answers:
1) $350/hr
2) 5 years
3) solo practitioner
4) New York

like

What are your client follow-up/communication policies or practices? I’m hearing more and more that clients don’t like the long periods of time with little to no contact. From my perspective, since I bill for my time, unless I have an update or need something, I don’t initiate a call. Also, clients hold on to important info and don’t initiate a call cause they’re waiting for me to communicate with them.

like

Hello Fam Law attys!

I am in my second year as a attorney, I was a FL paralegal before law school and would eventually like to end up there again. I am in a very small rural area, pretty much only solos, and no FL solos appear to be hiring/expanding at this time.

Do you think experience as a DA or PD would be valuable, with my eye toward a future in FL? Both for the skills gained, and/or as a resume piece?

TY!

like

Looking for a good custody attorney in PA if anyone has any recs.. thanks

like

I’m posting this here instead of my usual Big Law bowl because I’m guessing there are people here who will understand. I just need to vent. I am married to a wonderful man who has a young son. My husband is the kindest, most patient and supportive man I’ve ever met other than my dear late grandfather. He is saintly. But the chaos that surrounds him hurts me. I am the primary breadwinner and far out earn my husband and my stepson’s bio mom. I have always put pressure on myself to succeed (Cont.)

like

Any hiring tips? I’m the associate at a two attorney firm and my boss apparently wants to hire and is giving me free reign over the process.

like

How often do you all review your rates? I’m 6 months into partnership and my rate is the same as it was two years ago when I started at this firm as a 4th year (currently had a license just over 6 years and the 5.5 I’ve been in practice are all domestic relations)

like

Looking for some advice on how to find a really good attorney to deal with custody. I live in the Orlando, Florida area and truthfully don’t know where to begin. Most Google searches turn up thousands of attorneys. Is there a vetted website to find honest reviews?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal