Is it just me or the big 4 promote people way too fast? I joined the firm a year ago with 10 years of experience and came in as a senior consultant. Meanwhile my director is a year older than me.

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There are also a lot of directors and partners that came in through acquisition who have no business being directors and partners.

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@PwC 2 100% agree. The number of years in industry does not equate to the same aptitude for running a project or consulting and solving issues. Would always prefer early in house promote

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We are OP, we are

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OP you sound bitter AF. That attitude will shine through and you won't get promoted. In most practices it is defiantly not automatic. There is an "out" to "up and out" after all.

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If you spend 10-12 years in a company and you have worked you way up who cares if you are in your 30s and want to be promoted. The average promotion to partner (starting from the bottom) is now 14/15 years while back in early 2000s it was 11/12 years. Dependent on the group it could be quicker or longer. Most people don't stay and work all the way through to partner so being a boomerang or coming in with years of experience doesn't mean that you are qualified for a certain role. Just like anything you can have a manager that is 30 or a senior that is 30.

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I think it's because the experience you get at a consulting firm and the problems you solve are given a higher emphasis. Industry folks don't solve boardroom problems or cater to the C-Suite. Some might but most don't. That's also another reason why if you exit a consulting firm you almost always get a position 1 to 2 levels above. It's just the nature of work we do in Consulting. That experience is given more importance.

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Consulting experience and industry experience are entirely different things. I'd rather have an early consulting promote (indication of a rockstar) over an industry hire any day. "Battle proven" is measured in successful projects. (I say this as an experienced industry hire).

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It's not a dead end. We're supplying industry with new leadership, who we can sell work through. It's win-win.

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But their promotions are basically automatic unless you're a complete pile of shit

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I realize it takes 2 to 3 years right out of college to go from associate to senior. 3 years or so to become manager. Then another 3 to 4 to become director. You got a bunch of early 30's directors that all want to become partners... Sad

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Consulting is a different, quicker pace game. Every level is like being pushed into the water and learning how to swim again. Agree with PwC2 & 3.

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No they do, we have a bunch of sen mgrs that will never make partner, they will eventually be pushed out

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I'm not sure why they don't make more levels so people wouldn't think they're hitting dead end so early?

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This term "industry" makes me laugh as being in a consultant firm makes us some sort of higher being.

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Agree, consulting side is a little bit more based on accomplishments but still nothing like industry where it's based on being qualified. But we work in a pyramid scheme and those at the top need to make us below feel like we are climbing up

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But we still promote shitheads

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PwC 4 thank you for your analysis on my bitterness in life. I should proceed to hang myself knowing that my bitterness is causing me to never get promoted. Silliness asides, I pointed out an observation and many here have observed the same thing.

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Feel assurance promote people even faster than advisory

EY 1 that's totally my point. In my last "industry" job, a promotion actually reflected a significant accomplishment. Promotion here in big 4 doesn't seem to be as meaningful. It's more like you just do your job and you will get promoted when time is up.

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