Is it possible to go up for manager within a year of working as a senior? I have previous experience outside of consulting and would therefore like to accelerate the progression. Any advice is welcome

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Saw it a few times, but they cane from a competing firm or had previous consulting experience

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Not common, but possible. They prefer you are comfortable with the culture, standard business procedures and also ready to go to market. Helps set up both parties for success

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Well that is good to know. I would like to make the transition to another b4 and join as a manager. Will take any advice you have and any referral you can throw my way. Thanks so much!

Look from what i am seeing...its clear that you only want a promo for the sake if a promo.

Consulting firm recruiters are really got at spotting this, interviewers are really good at spotting people that have not mastered the skills at their level and dinging candidates for that.

Why dont you learn the skills at your level and get promoted normally

Slalom 1, I manage my project by myself. No manager involved. But I would like to know what skills are pre-requisite for the job. For instance, I have never been to orals before. I have supported them but would actually want to drive one. So interest in the position and some skills are together driving me to take the next step.

Its possible Op. But you gotta make your case and show that you are working as a manager in your day to day engagement. I know a person who made progression from being Senior to Senior Manager in the span of 3 years. But boy was he worth it.

Thanks EY. What would be the top skills that are pre-requisite? This would not include skills like being someone’s counselor because that isn’t possible at a senior level (not officially). What do you think the top pre-requisite skills are?

@op as a manager you are expected to have the following experience

Business development
- ability to identify and qualify sales opps without someone pointing them out
- land and expand at your current client
- ability to create storylines to win work
- ability to own your own area or portion of the proposal
- ability to avoid traps, mistakes when creating the proposal
- ability to create or grow a niche skill that generates business
- ability to anticipate problems and fix them before they become a problem
- ability to fix messed up projects
- ability to get clients to give you support when they hate you
- ability to standardize work so it becomes repeatable and can be completed faster
- do more...with less
- be able to understand the clients business and how to create value
- operations / lean ops/ bottleneck analysis

People developer
- ability to grow your people
- ability to turn around problem people
- ability to anticipate and resolve people problems (unexpected roll offs, quitting, etc)

Tech skills
- be highly skilled at something
- be able to architect a solution
- be able to modify a solution to account for client constraints
- be able to talk about tech or another skill set at a damn deep level
- be able to explain why you are customizing something
- be able to explain what problems will appear and why
- have multiple contingencies
- be able to explain everything to business people, architects, and hands to the keyboard people

You also should have the following experience
- ability to join a project at any point and deliver value (meaning you join in delivery phase and help deluver, or analysis and you help create the whole solution)
- worked across multiple industries w different business models
- worked on projects w changing scope, resources
- worked w clients that love and hate you
- worked w great team and not

People mess up or get tripped up in the following ways

- they confuse project mgmt with being ready for manager
- they are really good at one thing and think that will carry them thru
- they stay on one project because they will get promoted quickly....theybl fail to realize that its the variety of experiences that makes you valuable at the next level
- they dont realize that not all projects have promoteable roles
- they avoid hard roles....not realizing that its the hard roles that get you promoted
- they believe a title will give them credibility

In your case i noticed two things that made me take notice.
1. You talked about getting promoted but not why you wanted it.
2. You mentioned something about not wanting a career counselor because you wanted to be independent.

Those two were red flags to me. And if i could pick them up over chat...im sure your body language is giving it away

Thank you so much you guys!! This is such a great laundry list, I wish fb would let me pin it! Thanks a lot Slalom 1. I am interested in business development. Really want to get out there. Hence my previous comment about never driven orals before. Also, I didn’t say I didn’t want a career counselor. I said I have never been one because they won’t officially let you be one. I was therefore curious if that would be a pre-requisite skill to be a manager. You can only be someone’s counselor as a second year manager in Deloitte. I was afraid it would be held against me if I tried to jump ship as a manager.

Being a career counselor is neither a plus or a minus. Its just a part of the role.

If BD is your goal, you can do that now. I was doing that as an exp analyst.

There are multiple roles on a BD project - start off w the role you can do now.

To help here are a list of roles on BD efforts
- coordinator
- subject matter expert (client, business, and tech)
- pricing
- author

I started off as a tech expert and progressed to client sme

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