{ "media_type": "text", "post_content": "Is it standard for companies to let you know where you fall amongst your peers during annual reviews or is that just a big 4 thing? I feel like it’d be more motivating to talk about personal progression and improvement areas than to define your performance against everyone else’s. I know you will always be judged against peers, but HR doesn’t need to disclose that", "post_id": "6184275bcd3d9300300b8ac8", "reply_count": 7, "vote_count": 4, "bowl_id": "564a5cdb94887803001dd07c", "bowl_name": "Accounting" }

Is it standard for companies to let you know where you fall amongst your peers during annual reviews or is that just a big 4 thing? I feel like it’d be more motivating to talk about personal progression and improvement areas than to define your performance against everyone else’s. I know you will always be judged against peers, but HR doesn’t need to disclose that

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Big 4 thing for sure. Been at smaller firms and that’s not a thing there

likefunny

I feel like that’s 99% of what’s driving the toxic cultures at big 4

like

Was in industry for awhile. If you’re a top performer, you don’t need to ask because 1) more work is coming your way and 2) you already knew that implicitly. You’re not compared against your peers but unconscious bias will forever be a thing.

like

Wow, didn’t know that was a thing at big4. Would not want to be compared against others within the firm..

like

I appreciate it. It allows me to know where I am. To survive at big4, you need to have your head above the water, that’s it. It isn’t sink or swim for me, it’s just float.

like

You accept that you will be ranked against your peers but don’t want to know where you’re ranked? That’s a pretty weird sentiment don’t you think? Most people want more transparency on the metrics that contribute to their annual review not less.

Maybe it’s because of the metrics they use that I feel that way. If your ranking was truly based on performance, and not mostly how much you work, I wouldn’t have that much of an issue with it. But how do you think it’s beneficial to overwork everyone and then tell 4/5 of the people that they just didn’t work enough to be at the top

Related Posts

Where should I expect to land in TC for S&O/corpdev/bizdev roles in tech or late stage startups? 6yoe, strategy at Big 4 and industry

like

Went for a promotion this year, didn’t get it. I should next year, barring something catastrophic happens. If I leave for another big 4 now, about 20% pay hike, plus higher title. Ultimate goal is to

like

Aside from B4, MBB, FAANG what other companies still sponsoring given this environment? Girlfriend is international and has T20 legal/business education, international legal/MBB/VC experience. Cont.

like

Decent profile and 80k pay at a big 4 or shitty profile and 140k pay in the industry? In either cases getting no where!!!

like

Other big 4 are not so innocent either

like

I left a boutique consulting company because I felt under utilized. Joined a larger supposedly hip consultancy with local market model with great expectations and am finding myself let down by the experience - the client, work, teamwork and collaboration, technical content is not per what was promised and feels like I am back to my b4 days. I was a fool to fall for the kumbaya in consulting crap - I am best developing products with great teams. Industry looks down on me. What are my options?

like

Been here three months (big 4) I want to quit

likefunny
like

Describe the B4 like family members, throw in BAH and Accenture if you’re in federal...and go!

like

Does Fishbowl allow people to have access to two separate Big 4 bowls? I'd like to join the Deloitte bowl, but I don't see the "Join" button.

like

Is moving from big 4 to a firm like BDO or RSM really gonna be any different? I feel it’s like it’s mostly the same big 4 or not

likehelpful

What much do managers make, big 4 in the central or Midwest region.

like

boutique vs. big 4 vs. MBB? Pros and cons.

like

What salary should one expect for IT audit Senior1 (4 years of Exp) in Big 4(both global and India practice)??

like

About to join a Big 4 in 3 weeks and just found out that I'm pregnant. Will I still be eligible for parental leave?

like

What are benefits packages like outside the Big 4, particularly at MANGA (I guess that’s the new acronym with Meta), Salesforce, etc? I always assumed Deloitte’s benefits were on the more generous side but curious how we go up against some of these tech companies who also generally pay more. I’m paying $3796/yr for a family HDHP where the total OOP max is $7600 ($3800 for individual). D throws in $1k to HSA if you max personal.

like

For those who were at mid-tier firms and have left PA/are interviewing, did you feel that your exit opportunities were limited due being at a mid-tier? I’m genuinely curious as I’ll be joining a mid-tier and I am coming from a regional firm. Hoping to pay my dues for another 2-3 years to get senior promotion and get my CPA (halfway done) then exit PA. Don’t really want to hop into B4 but everyone always talks about the B4 prestige being a huge resume booster.

like

Help me evaluate an industry offer for a B4 manager up for SM (got confirmation that I am thru the process). Current base is $171k . $180k base, $35k sign-on bonus, full relocation, 35% bonus - 20% cash and 15% equity - 15% equity bonus is assured forever with 3 year vesting. Cash bonus fixed as long as rated average. Overall happy with offer but want to evaluate it against possible growth if I stay at B4.

like

What's the median B4 partner base / TC in Germany / Switzerland? Looking to move to EU for family reasons.

like

Has anyone left Big 4 to T2 instead of MBB? What was the experience like? Pros/Cons I feel like most of threads are Big 4 to MBB, instead of T2. I'm interested in Kearney and L.E.K along with MBB.

like

Additional Posts

1.5 years into my career at IBM and looking at joining JP Morgan Chase as a strategy and transformation senior associate. Thoughts?

like

Where should I expect to land in TC for S&O/corpdev/bizdev roles in tech or late stage startups? 6yoe, strategy at Big 4 and industry

like

Just found out I have a second round interview for EY’s FSO practice area as a Technical Business Analyst. The interview is an hour (total) with two separate 30 minute interviews with different Senior Managers in Technology Consulting. Any tips about what types of questions to expect? This is my first time interviewing for tech consulting specifically!

like

Looking to learn about education consulting within MBB. Can anyone provide insight?

like

Just got an offer for a Sr. AWS DevOps role at 145K, I will be working remotely 100% with maybe 5% travel, if any. No bonus with this company. I have over 8 years of DevOps and AWS, all AWS certs . Should I be asking for more $? Thoughts on the offer and how much more $ I should be asking for ? Current location is kinda irrelevant since I will be working remotely.

like

Looking at my 401k account (standard 2055 target retirement fund) and realizing that international funds have dragged down my rate of return compared to the S&P 500. Should I switch to all domestic?

likefunny

When a company transitions 401k providers, and funds are being mapped over, do the funds stay invested throughout the entire process? Or are there typically a few days out of the market? Cont...

like

Salesforce onsite interview with senior leadership. Any tips, how much technical this round will be or more of managerial sort of questions ..Any guidance helps thanks..

like

Those who went to b school: What kind of school did you go to (M7, t15, or something else) and of your peers who wanted to get into consulting, how many were able to get a position? Friend wants...

like

I have a zoom interview that was supposed to start 10 min ago. How long should I keep waiting?

like

Hi, looking for recommendations for a therapist, ideally NYC -based but also someone who does remote sessions. Mostly looking for help with severe anxiety, depression, and maybe cognitive behavior therapy. BCBS insurance. I’m a single parent, and I’m struggling. Thanks in advance.

like

What does everyone think about RSMs healthcare consulting practice? Worth making a change?

like

Anyone recently redeem Marriott points (specifically to Delta miles) and get an email saying it could take 6 months to process?

like

Went for a promotion this year, didn’t get it. I should next year, barring something catastrophic happens. If I leave for another big 4 now, about 20% pay hike, plus higher title. Ultimate goal is to

like

I was laid off from a resource management role, working with employees approaching or on the bench, working with managers to staff projects, and support functions like report creation, scheduling, etc. Roles like this are few and many large consulting firms have frozen internal hiring. Do you think it would be beneficial to get a SHRM cert? Would that help get a "talent related" HR role? Worth the money? I have a background in recruitment as well.

like

Aside from B4, MBB, FAANG what other companies still sponsoring given this environment? Girlfriend is international and has T20 legal/business education, international legal/MBB/VC experience. Cont.

like

If you miss a zoom meeting your bosses are on as well as other attorneys because you overslept where you were supposed to share some updates on cases you are working on as part of the conversation, do you apologize and tell them you missed your alarm OR make something up (white lie) of something that came up that you had to deal with?

like

Is dizziness a COVID symptom? Have mild to moderate dizziness for 5 days now, what gives??

like

Any 🐠 still up at Westin Jersey City?

like

How many of you are the only woman at your firm/practice group? I’m at a large firm, but part of a smaller practice group (<10 associates). We have female partners, but I’m the only female associate in our group. I’ve become friends with one of the other associates. Someone recently joked that I’m his “work wife.” This really bothered me. I don’t think of our relationship as romantic at all. This is mostly just a rant, but can we please retire this term?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
Download Fishbowl to see what others are saying
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the Fishbowl app

Get realtime notifications and see
what's happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal