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Titles are all over the place. The first company I worked for assistant counsel was the most junior now I’m at a place where it’s fairly senior. There isn’t uniformity and I think that’s well known in-house.
Fact! Fresh out of lawschool, I was the only other attorney in-house besides the GC and my title was Associate General Counsel. lol
Pro
Titles are going to vary between companies.
Ours is:
Corporate counsel (less than 10 years of practice)
Senior counsel (at least 10 years of practice)
Assistant general counsel
Associate general counsel (typically leads a practice area)
Deputy GC (not quite second in command, as. I AGCs report through this person)
GC
Ours is the same, except that Associate GCs are under Assistant GCs.
Pro
Ours is just “counsel” across the board until you become GC of a business unit. Some people are not fans of this but it’s intended to remove a sense of hierarchy and in that sense it works. I previously worked at a company where every year or so you got some BS fluffy title and people really bought into it, like “I’m a senior VP deputy now so don’t put time on my calendar unless you have good reason.” Meanwhile they’re like 4 years out of law school.
I’ve noticed that companies either use (a) counsel/corporate counsel/senior counsel/commercial counsel,etc or (b) assistant general counsel/associate general counsel/deputy general counsel/gc. I had colleagues at my former firm tell me that the latter are better titles.
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Titles are worthless IMO. It's a "feel good" thing for most folks.
Titles seem to be different for the same role depending on the company. The only pattern I have noticed is the larger the company the more they “need” “managers” so there’s more titles and sometimes it’s just an excuse to raise someone’s salary / benefits pkg. So their title changes with little else.
In-house with a Canadian provincial government. Here’s our food chain:
Legal Officer (Levels 1-3 depending on seniority)
Director
Executive Director
Assistant Deputy Minister
Deputy Minister
The DM reports to the Minister who is an elected official and member of Cabinet.