I’ve been an Art Director for 5 years, and I have never presented to clients IRL.

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Do you mean they never take you to presentations or that all presentations are done over the phone? Because I haven’t presented to client face to face in about 5 years.

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All presentations are done via phone, but I have never been to client meetings IRL

This is a little insane. I’d push for face to face time at least. It’s so important if only to learn how to banter with the client beforehand and pick up on soft skills that a phone call doesn’t allow for. I also find it gives you time to develop a more personal relationship with them.

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This is insane. How is anyone supposed to get good at presenting if they get no practice? Teams should always present their own work wherever possible.

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ECD1, you’re either dishonest or lucky. Do you have anyone on your staff who needs the seatbelt extender on an airplane? How would your clients feel about flying with them?

I’ve been presenting to clients face-to-face since I was an intern. Maybe I’ve just been lucky and had mentors who wanted me to get the experience? I present pretty regularly now and am really glad I’ve learned how.

If you want to present, maybe talk to your CD’s about it? They’ll probably appreciate the initiative.

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I lost a pitch once because, even though we had the best creative, the client said that no one on the team was someone he’d “want to hang out with on the road.” All the people involved never went to the pitch again.

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I know business is money but that client can fucking keep theirs. Sounds like you dodged a bullet by not winning that client.

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In a big place you’re just a small cog in a big machine and the account people do everything in their power to keep the people actually doing the work from the clients as far away as possible. It’s one of many ways to justify their existence.

Go to a smaller place. I’ve been in places below 100 people and there even the interns would run parts of a workshop or present research. An environment that cares about its people teaches them stuff like that.

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At what point should ADs are expected to present? 2 and half years in and haven't presented as well...

Going to a client usually doesn't happen until ACD level, I thought

I really want to say the truth but I know the moderators will just ban me. So... just keep trying!

Not everyone is client facing.

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