I've been away from New York for the last 3.5 months and it's making me think I need to leave for good. The NY ad scene feels like it has a lot of greedy, vain, bitter, overworked and burnt out people, and I can see myself becoming one too.

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It is. I was too. And I did. Best quality of life decision in my life.

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If you still want to work in the city though I recommend Maplewood / South Orange NJ. Yes, NJ. It’s only a 30 min commute to the city (when NJ Transit is actually functioning).

Everyone here are transplants from Manhattan and Brooklyn.

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Born and raised in Montclair. When I commuted from home after college it was such a breath of fresh air from city chaos. All these towns have a wonderful feeling to them, great schools, and rich and culturally diverse neighborhoods.

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What’s the point of dealing with NYC heat and humidity if you don’t have to? That’s why the rich have summer houses. 😭

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I left last October for SoCal and it’s been a lot better. Leaving was on my mind for a long time but I didn’t have the courage to do it until I did.

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Same same same. Partner and I planned to go back after the 4th, but now we wonder why we would. We are by a lake and ... enough said. We are definitely moving within the year.

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Same. I’m on Long Island living with the rents and saving to buy a place. One thing for certain: after this pandemic, I now have zero interest in moving back into the city... and seeing how expensive things are on LI, I have no interest in buying here.

I love what I do, but with so many companies going remote, I may just find a less creative job in ecomm or work for an agency that covers small or local businesses (like an agency that covers a big gas station in the area) and move to a less expensive area.

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In the exact same boat. Was planning to move in the next year or two but really considering bumping up the timeline. Hard to know how to plan and when to pull the trigger though. Are you planning to go back?

I feel like I should go back, but ppl I’ve spoken to who left for COVID and returned in the last few weeks (w the intent to stay the summer) have so far unanimously said “....aaaand as soon as we got back to the city we decided to leave for the summer.”

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One couple was eager to stay closer to family, especially with the seeming re-rise of our first wave of this, and also since they found life more difficult in NYC compared to where they’d been sheltering for the first leg of COVID. Another couple stayed in the city a LONG time and finally relocated temporarily and then were like “Why tf did we wait so long to do this?”

Both couples said the seeming benefits of NYC living were just so far from available it didn’t make sense to stay short term. Both also thought returning would be relatively navigable as a twosome but found it didn’t compare to where they’d temporarily relocated to.

That’s one of my biggest fears about returning because I live alone but have been sheltering w a partner and near family. Every single element of life will be harder, more time consuming, more expensive, and completely solo. For what?

Lots of jerks in NYC. Also a lot of really great people. I would imagine it’s like that all over.

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I just came back to the city and I don’t really recognize it. There is a lot of mental illness and homelessness exposed now that the crowds are gone. It’s sad and depressing. There’s an uneasiness in the air. I don’t always feel safe on the streets for the first time in 20 years. I think a lot of NY-ers are going to let go of that thing we all have been grasping onto for so long and decide F- this...it’s just not worth it anymore.

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Also, fireworks every night, all night. Feels like a war zone

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Apparently this is happening to a lot of people

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