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I’ve been doing healthcare essentially since DTC was made legal. In all those years, the majority of people in charge on both the client and agency side have been women. Even on men’s health. Cont...

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Pharma doesn’t really have time for the good ol boys theatrics. I did 5 years in consumer. The antics I experienced in consumer, I rarely rarely ever experienced in my 15 years in pharma. We get people in line and deliver effectively. LOL I guess in pharma nobody has time to run off to their drug dealer for the office stash like CDs in consumer did. I wonder if that still happens. Hm maybe pharma is the Girls club. 💪🏻

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I've been in pharma for 15 years and have had sexist pig clients and colleagues who made a pass at me and some of the most bad ass female bosses you can imagine. It all depends on the day.

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I’ve had the same experience as you, OP. I’m cool with it, but it is a little annoying to see all those Rising Star in Advertising awards they hand out to every single female above the supervisor level.

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Yeah the rising stars are kind of annoying..

ABSOLUTELY. When I started in general, I wondered where the women were. In direct, I was wondering where the people over 40 were. In pharma. (My experience)

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15 years pharma. 5-6 agencies. Numerous colleagues and clients of both sexes. Totally 50/50 (except very senior titles were male, especially clients). This is highly subjective/speculative/anecdotal

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I work at a good ol boys shop and have been here for 7 years. I have seen mostly men in leadership positions on both agency and client sides

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It could be my path as I’ve said. But even when I went on interviews at general shops that had pharma, or pharma specific shops, I met with a lot of women in senior roles. And my current account teams, creative leader, agency president and whole client team are almost all women. Like 9/10.

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Most of my clients in pharma over the past 12 years have been women and the 100+ colleagues are also mostly women. For us, having a male colleague is actually diversity and we’re trying to have more balanced teams. Lol biotech clients have been mostly men.

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Pharma is a lot less ageist and ageism kicks in a lot sooner for women.

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(This is not a bad thing at all. I’ve seriously adored my colleagues and bosses the whole time, especially after working in general advertising for the decade prior and believe me, it was the complete opposite.) I have some theories on this but I’m curious to see if it’s just been my path, or have others also seen this. And if so, why do you think there are so many women in pharma advertising in leadership roles, as opposed to general shops?

Creative still seems to lean male in leadership roles. At least in my experience. Tons of women in account, strategy, and client side though.

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