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I’ve been seeing this a lot more recently and just had to make a thread about it. I refuse to believe that anyone on here has actually been asked to work a 100hr week. People come onto this thread with legitimate questions and concerns and I just see people trying to scare them out of public which inevitably makes it worse for everyone else who sticks around. Even an 80 hour week is debatable and that is the absolute top. Stop trying to be an attention getter. We work, but not 24/7.

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I worked several 80+ hour weeks and a 100 hour week last year. The IRS issued new regulations, and thousands of clients were required to prepare complex calculations to comply with these new regulations. These calculations had to be completed before clients could file their 2019 tax returns. We sold projects for tens of millions of dollars to prepare these calculations for clients. We had small teams of people around the country preparing these calculations, but PwC only had a few SMEs to provide technical consulting on these projects and perform final review of the calculations. I’m one of those SMEs that the firm was depending on to deliver this work, which would have been impossible if we didn’t work those hours. Obviously, this doesn’t happen every year, but there may be times in your career when there are no other options.

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Started my career in B4 audit on an understaffed audit filing mid February. The last two weeks of the audit were wake up 7am, be in the office at 8, work till 4am and repeat. Even backing out 3 hours for eating and idle chatting each day, Monday-Friday alone got me to 85 hours. Needless to say our team was also working full days on the weekends so add an extra 16 hours minimum and that puts you over 100. Was I asked to do it? No, but if everyone else on the team is doing it and there’s work that needs to get done with no additional bodies coming in then idk what to tell you. Now in corporate but had gone from audit to FDD and had several 80-hour weeks there as well. Again not asked but if everyone is still online at 3am working then it’s not exactly a question of sharing the workload

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I worked three separate 100 charge hour weeks, multiple 85+ charge hour weeks, and most of busy season was 70+ hours at BKD in the tax group. Was it ever directly asked? No. Was it indirectly asked based upon the workload assigned to me, being chronically understaffed, and a culture that focused on and praised high hours? Yes.

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Much greener pastures, and still in public! The hours culture is still there, alive and well unfortunately. Some friends I made at the national trainings from another office told me how they would work in shifts around the clock for a huge client that always brought information in late. I thought it was just my office, but it’s really the whole firm’s culture. My partners were nice to everyone’s face, but as I moved up it became very obvious we were just bodies they churned through. Toxic old school mentality and the retention, for at least at the office I worked at, shows it.

Seeing you’re not an experienced associate I’m guessing you haven’t hit busy season yet. You will definitely be billing 85 hours / week at certain points during busy season. You won’t be told to directly but you will be given tasks that require this amount of time and if you do not deliver it will dictate your future at the firm (like if it continues). I’m also assuming you’ve not physically worked in an office yet. When the senior manager isn’t leaving until 9pm, the manager isn’t until 9:30, and the senior isn’t until 10:00. That leaves you in a terrible position if you skirt out before any of them and after 7 days per week - you’ve hit those time marks.

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Yet another reason why office culture sucks and it’s better to work from home

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There’s a difference between being asked and actually working those hours. I’ve worked 100+ hour weeks more than once. I wasn’t technically asked to but I failed to speak up and say, I need help. I had to learn from my mistakes and learn that it was ok, actually encouraged, to speak up and say, I have a ton of projects/deadlines hitting at the same time and I can’t get it all done. Once I learned to do that my schedule was significantly better. Some people are better at saying no than others. Hopefully everyone that is working 80+ hours will get a well deserved break soon and can work with their counselor and leaders to come up with a better plan for the future.

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Absolutely! Speak up and talk to those you're working with, working such an intense week is self inflicted imo, but there are maybe a lot of people out there who are never told that all they have to do is speak up and ask for help.

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Legit worked 9am - 3am (or later) in audit for at least 6 weeks a year. Thats more than 80.

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Same here! I was working from 9 - 4 am and later constantly and the team ended up saying I didn’t do enough🥺. Working that much negatively affected my health in many ways and I still haven’t fully recovered.

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It depends on your service line, I have definitely worked 80 hour weeks before, you must have it good

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In 90s this week so it depends on your teams and group. We are deadline driven and doing max capacity in my group.

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Do you not think it’s possible that other people have different experiences than you? Just because you don’t believe what people say or haven’t witnessed it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I worked at Big 4 for two years after college and everybody was working 80+ hours and 100 the week before filing. We work those long hours because everyone else is doing it and I wish I didn’t because I ended up getting laid off anyways. So now I don’t work 80+ hours and I’m okay if they fire me 😬 but I’m also not at Big 4 anymore.

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7 days a week. 12 to 14 chargeable hours M through Th and 10 chargeable hours F through Sun. That is how you get to 80 hour weeks. Do that for 10 weeks about twice a year until you make partner in 14 to 18 years.

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It's 3 days before the tax deadline... I'm in one. Hit 100 billable yesterday. It doesn't happen often & shouldn't happen, But does.

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^^^^^^ the indirect asks and shade of saying "you're not working hard enough" if you can't physically do it. Worst is when you do speak up about it and you're still gaslighted with a don't ghost hours but "just get it all done" under budget response

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You're right: 100 hours, or even 80, is debatable. I'm not sure why people try to grab attention with such posts. But is the ultimate issue that people have about PA simply just the long hours? Sure, anybody unhappy about their PA experience will likely mention the long hours simply because they are easy to recall naturally. The real issue is the toxic environments and management tactics. Often, these tactics create unnecessary hours that could have easily been avoided had management communicated more effectively. Similarly, you might have an associate asked to work a lot of hours on an under-staffed engagement, only to receive harsh reviews upon completion for not meeting unreasonable expectations. The system is designed to make people quit because of the hours. But under the surface, it's really not the hours that drives turnover.

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Some might say that if you have dreams about work while your sleeping then you should be able to fully charge your time lol.

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I’ve worked several as well and I’m almost a senior. Most In 2 days was 40 hours. Not sure how thats “attention getting” or something I was begging to do.

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80 hours do happen. What's even more sad is seeing new hires coming in and suddenly having to be staffed in projects that required then to work long hours since turnover was so high recently. Talk about burnout crash course.

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Seeing this post from an associate is hilarious. Please educate us, oh knowing one.

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When I worked in audit this was very much the norm during busy season.

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I have done a few 100 hour weeks on train wreck audits the week before filing. I would say though that my typical busy season is closer to 55-60

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I just worked 90 billable hours this week and worked 80 last week. Work mostly on partnerships and the deadline is just getting closer. Just need to get stuff out the door, regardless of anything. We’re definitely short staffed and this is good leverage.

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Hit a 114 hour charge week my first tax season. My senior worked 130. I remember working a 7-5 and coming in at 9 am the next day

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