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Jr. Art Director at a C grade consumer shop in a major market. OR Sr. Art Director at a Health/Pharma shop on a 360 account. ??

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i’ll add - the longer you’re in pharma, the harder it will be to leave.

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I would say all from what I’ve seen. In hiring, and this is purely just from what I’ve seen first hand, most people I know are reluctant to hire out of pharma agencies if there are other candidates.

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Depends on your career aspirations. Imo the grade of the agency is far less relevant than the accounts you’re on and the potential for good work. Euro RSCG was pretty much trash back in the day, but if you were working on Dos Equis, that didn’t matter.

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If you don’t mind a career in pharma, pursue that. If your end goal is a career in consumer, it’s hard to pivot from pharma. And it’s not impossible to pull a couple book pieces from a “c grade” consumer agency. *disclaimer: some people on FB will say that pharma-to-consumer is easy, but it’ll be based on limited real life examples. Generally, there are enough consumer creatives looking for work that recruiters don’t need to go out on a limb for a pharma creative.

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That’s what I always hear. Ideally I want a career in consumer. Though long term it’d be good to get some more health under my belt if I chose to do my own thing eventually in a specific small market where a lot of hospitals/dr.’s are. To your second point, I can still pass my spec where I’m at now in my career so it may be smart to push the consumer opportunity.

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Agree with McCann 1 ^ Been there, survived pharma, got out in a year.

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Don’t think in forever terms. Go for what makes you better at what you do as the next step.

If you want to work in pharma, then take that gig. Otherwise, neither.

Don’t mention the agency. Just freelance. Make sure to have personal projects in your book.

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