Just a temp. check! How are people feeling about the executive act signed today on 'refugee ban' and 'Muslim ban'. Any peeps from the those 7 counties?

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This country was built on the foundation of accepting those who couldn't find freedom or safety elsewhere. I'm very upset with this decision.

As to DD1 - just because other theocratic authoritarian regimes are being callous, doesn't mean we should. If the only basis of your point was that all of those countries share Islam as a major religion, I'd challenge you to find some empathy and explore why you have such a simplistic viewpoint of the issue.

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@PC1 - I'm a Muslim, born and raised here. I'd encourage you to look beyond the faith and look at the socioeconomic reasons for why that is. Predominantly Muslim countries happen to be war-torn, poor, and have a history of authoritarian regimes in the 20/21st century. Arguably, the cause of this is Western intervention after the end of WWII. Nations were created not based on shared ethnicity or culture, but arbitrarily, and that's led to a lot of conflict.

It's easy for terrorists to turn to using religion as a recruiting tool. Islam itself shares much of the same beliefs as Judaism and Christianity - and goes so far as to call them "People of the Book". During Muhammad's time, they introduced the first set of laws governing human rights of enemies and rules of engagement. Frankly, terrorist groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda pick and choose what they need from the religion and use it as a tool and ignore the actual lesson and context.

I'm not a religious scholar, but I've read the holy book, the teachings of Muhammad, and have common sense. I can confidently tell you that these dudes are not Muslim.

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Yeah, like Melania Trump, who worked in the us illegally for a time.

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@DD1, "the innocence of the people of the region is debateable." Wow. The only debate is how bigoted you are on a scale of casual racist to KKK

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Western intervention and Israeli occupation created terrorism. Period.

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@A1 it makes exceptions for people of minority religions. When you apply that to Muslim-majority countries, it doesn't take a genius to see it's a de facto Muslim ban.

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Once Saudi Arabia and Iran start accepting refugees I'll be all for the U.S. helping them out.

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DD1 - why are you so bitter about the innocent people of that region? It's not like people have a choice on where they are born?

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As a corollary I'm going to assume DD1 is Dylan roof.

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I watched kids attach bombs to trucks to blow people up A2, fuck you. If you are teaching your children to attach bombs to the bottom of trucks I will have no issues smoking your ass too. You have no idea about the reality of which you speak, hence why you compare it to the lame bullshit that was the KKK.

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I don't agree with restricting by religion but I'm fine not accepting refugees or illegal immigrants. That includes beautiful Eastern European ones too.

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I served there E1, I have no sympathy for the region. My view is quite complex.

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There was no "Muslim ban" today - if you have language in a document that says that then produce it.

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Really, DD1 - perhaps you should consider that Western intervention is the cause of those crises.

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A1 - well not allowing people to enter/re-enter from a certain countries (predominantly Muslim) seems like a Muslim ban (which is the rhetoric used during campaign too).The list of the countries can expand and the implications are yet to be seen but the language is quite broad to impact people born, visiting, green card holders or dual nationals from these countries. Banning people just because they are from certain countries and follow a certain religion is not only unwise but expensive, dangerous, fear-creating, impracticable, counter-productive and quite problematic to say the least.

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Lol, ok. Living in shitty countries with shitty traditional beliefs and a religion that when taken to its extreme involves conquest and child rape had absolutely nothing to do with it. The Arab world aligned with Nazi Germany and lost. We should totally blame the survivors of the Holocaust for the shitty reality that is the middle East though. Fuck the Middle East. Good thing must of the world's Muslims aren't there.

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DD1 - it is admiral that you served for our country. War is never pretty and the politics behind it even uglier. We cant completely generalize everyone in a region just because your experience was some people shot at you that could be misinformed, politically driven or felt threatened. I wonder what you would have done if you were born into their shoes in that region. At some point we have to take a step back and evaluate the broader situation.

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DD1 - keep telling yourself your view is complex. It is extremely simple, naive, misinformed and orientalist. Every ideology can be abused, politicized and funded to grow for the wrong reasons.

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Love the smell of racism in the morning

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We need to look at countries that have accepted refugees and figure out if we can do a better job of assimilating them

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