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Just curious, what do my ultra-conservative colleagues think of the rainbow EY logo currently on linkedin?

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Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but I’m not sure what you’re trying to get out of asking this question in this manner. Singling out “Ultra-conservative” instead of asking what people think in general, to me, indicates that you meant to be derogatory - and not really “just curious”. Why would anyone respond honestly if it’s just a trap question? Apologies if I misread your intentions. Just trying to bring a little kindness to our internet interactions. Have a great day!

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I am very conservative. I disagree with gay marriage in principal because I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I do not, however, treat gay people any differently than straight people. My personal beliefs about marriage have no impact on how others choose to live their life and I do not allow their choices to affect my perception or treatment of them. Therefore, despite disagreeing with gay marriage and despite being a conservative, I don’t feel that my views are homophobic or discriminatory in any way. And for that reason I feel offended that you would assume I’d be angry at EY’s rainbow logo. I simply do not care. And I think you and other liberals like you need to understand that. Just because we disagree with something doesn’t mean we’re bigots and implying that we are bigots is the bigger problem here.

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@SC1, you, sir or madam, are a goddamn Saint.

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I’m as conservative as they come, and it turns out that just means I think that government should stay out of your personal life. No problem with rainbow flags or gay marriage. What were you trying to prove here OP?

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I am not the one who suggested transgender people are mentally Ill which is wrong as a blanket statement. Nor did I mention race so I don’t have to check anything

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I’d rather not see stuff like that at my place of employment. But at the end of the day I’m 1000x more concerned with these dumbass walkthroughs than who people love

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Quite a gas lightning post here. Religion as the basis to justify discrimination is a terrible practice. No problem with the Rainbow.

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As a non-conservative member of the LGBT community, I’d be more concerned that giant corporations who have done relatively little to advance gay rights (and have been subject to various lawsuits surrounding discriminatory hiring and promotion practices, which is why they’ve pushed diversity and inclusion so hard) are using our struggles as a PR event.

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Conservative Christian and it doesn’t bother me a bit. Why try to make everything an issue? Live your life, do what you want. People are people, government should let them be. But I disagree with the poster’s comment above that somehow the Catholic Church now has to accept gay marriage. It’s against their beliefs. If they don’t stand in the way why do you have to try to force them to endorse it?

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Conservative here. I think this comes off as pandering and trivializes the LGBT community. But at the end of the day I'm pretty indifferent to the temporary logo for pride month. Everyone hasdifferences, but we should all treat one another with respect and dignity.

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You conflate Conservatism with.... Whatever CNN tells you that all conservatives believe... Real Conservatives are against the government having any power over your day-to-day lives. Why does the government need to be involved in deciding how much my husband or wife and I love each other and whether that meets the minimum state-defined threshold for marriage?

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Until it’s about controlling women’s body.

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Ey 19 makes the point. Leave your religion out of the work place. This community has suffered in silence and hidden for a long time. We need to show our young people that we accept everyone not just those of you that believe in Christianity. We are a global firm and we are all humans. This is not political. You don’t know what it’s like until you walk in someone else’s shoes. I don’t see why you can’t reconcile that with your religion. If you can’t, that is disappointing.

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I was going by specific comments in this thread. Oh and the specific teachings and policies of various churches. Would you like me to list them. I happen to be a Christian for your information but each person chooses their own beliefs and how to interpret scripture. But yea, I am the problem. Good one.

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I made the assumption that liberal people would like it. I am curious to know how people who don't support gay marriage (e.g. Catholics) feel about their employer making a statement contrary to their own beliefs.

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And - the Jesus I follow wouldn’t hate or shun anyone for something they can’t control

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It’s almost as silly as the “I support inclusion” tag people started putting in their email bios. Feels like a suuuper cheap publicity stunt

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I disagree. If there is a battle against you, do you want someone to secretly whisper "I'm on your side" or to wave your flag in support of your cause? As the question indicates, it's not without some risk and it doesn't feel cheap to me.

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The workplace (or the logo representing it) is not a place for weighing in on social issues. Because there are differing opinions on the symbolism captured and seemingly endorsed, it is inappropriate to “weigh-in”. Just stay out of it rather than cheap publicity stunts

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“The workplace is not a place for weighing in on social issues”? Seriously? So the workplace is not where you would talk about equality in hiring practices or equality in pay or child labor laws or retaliation or sexual harassment or anything? You can’t truly believe your own comment

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Late to the party here- I’m not catholic or gay (I’m as straight as Michael Scott) but I have a gay friend and he’s tight

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Lmfao, this was refreshing compared to the other comments 😂

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Not sure what the intent of the question is. I am glad EY is doing more and more to support the lgbt community. I work with several professionals from that community and they are top tier professionals. I am happy that the firm supports them.

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I love it because it supports a group of my colleagues that historically have not been supported, and I want them to feel that

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I’m offended by it, what if EY would promote abortion, or any other highly controversial topic, like Trump? I believe everyone should be tolerant of one another, but it feels like they are promoting it. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they are trying to undo all the pre-conceived notion of not tolerating it.

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Marriage today is no longer a religious only act. The moment they made you go down to the courthouse and sign papers, then make you mark it on your tax return was the day marriage no longer was about the union of two people. But another way for the government to control and create conflict with its citizens.

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Excuse me but waving a showy logo is only showmanship and is not true support. I’m assuming with or without marriage, the significant other is acknowledged by EY for benefits as spouse? That’s the only one that counts IMO.

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Not sure what qualfies as "ultra-conservative", but I really don't care. I'm much more on the conservative side of things. If your question is sincere then I'm glad you asked. I think all of these politically charged arguments would stop if people got to know each other on a personal level. I have also wanted to ask questions like this, but sometimes it's more like setting off a bomb than starting a discussion.

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