Just got acquired and was curious what everyone had for PTO packages and whether this is standard for a defense company. 0-3 years 20 days 4-5 years is 22 days and 6-7 is 25. 5 weeks off after 6-7 years doesn’t sound the best to me from previous jobs I’ve worked in the past but wanted opinions?

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I have experience at a handful of tech companies over the past 15 years, and that PTO package sounds pretty much consistent. I think it should be higher everywhere in the US, but that’s a different argument. 🥸

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Seems pretty standard package that leans toward the more generous side. You don’t say if sick time is covered separately.

Some of the posters here refer to unlimited PTO. It’s not always the great deal people may initially think it is. Depends on whether you can actually take as much as you want (peer pressure, work demands). The other side is when you leave the company, there will not be any accrued PTO payoff to you for anything unused.

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My company pushes people to take time off and recover/relax. 4,000 or so employees and unlimited PTO. my manager last year said "I want to see PTO for a week or two on everyone's calendar next quarter. I don't care if you go to Asia, Europe, or backyardia, take time off"

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Not sure what defense companies you are comparing to but Lockheed and Boeing both offer less PTO than that ( 120 hours 0-14 years, slow growth after that capping out at 160 hours accrued PTO a year, accrual banks rolls over up to 400 hours) LM gives an additional 40 hours personal time and 40-50 hours of floating time if your facility doesn't have a shutdown end of the year, neither of which roll over. So to me those numbers sound decent unless they already include sick/personal leave.

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Thanks for the info.

Unlimited PTO and I usr it

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Unlimited Vacation

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I used to work in Defense. The PTO package you listed above seems terrible if there is no growth after 6-7 years

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Yea typically defense has a very structured and grounded pay bands for each level and 3% is average, although most get less than that. You can find the NGC 2016 pay band spreadsheet somewhere online to see where you fall

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Agree

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Are you kidding me- who can take five weeks of vacation plus another two for holidays? Sorry if I sound rude.

Me - I take about 6 weeks a year. We have unlimited PTO as long as you get work done.

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Yep, that's a respectable PTO offering for defense companies. My company caps out at 4 weeks PTO plus 2 weeks of floating holiday for most folks. If you're lucky you could get one of the rare benefits packages that caps out at 5 weeks PTO. And if you're really, REALLY lucky you get a manager you can convince to give you training hours on top of the PTO and holiday.

Everyone at my company has 3 weeks

Seems like a broadly generous package regardless of industry

Hi all. I'm transitioning to defense from totally different industry (tech/marketing) and will be working for the government. How si the pace? Anything to be aware of? I'll be in internal facing IT project management. TIA!

P.s. I know this is a PTO thread but was really excited to find somebody who works in defense for any perspective!

@Bluehalo, that's pretty good. A bunch of places still do 2 week to start and climb up to 3 and 4 or maybe even top out at 3. Starting at 4 and climbing to 5 is pretty good. You probably get a whole bunch of holidays/personal time/company shut down and unlimited sick on top. For most people it's pretty hard to actually take 4+ weeks of legit vacations.

That seems pretty good to me. When I worked at a defense company we got I think 3 weeks/yr, which went up to 4 weeks after 5(?) yrs, then another step later. We could bank 240 hours.

We also got to bank upto 24 hours worked in excess of 40 as a similar kind of vacation time, which was really nice since some people used it to take odd Fridays off.

You're right about raises and promotions though - in my (limited) experience people tend to work at those companies longer and it's harder to get promoted because people tend to have more tenure.

I just started and I know this bumps up after 5 years, I started with 14 days, and Christmas week off - so roughly 120 hours. And they'll schedule company wide mental health days (i.e this July they've made July 5th and 6th paid days off.)

I work for a smaller defense contractor. That PTO policy is generous. We have sick time plus PTO time and have a mandatory shutdown at Christmas plus a lot of holidays. We cap out at 25 days after 10 years and start at 15 days at one year.

I guess this is very country specific as Norway has 25 days after 1 year of employment and then 12 days of “no-proof needed” sick leave + more if you have kids and both parents work, i think 20 but quite unsure 🤷‍♂️
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