L.A. Fish, what's public transportation like? Thinking of moving there from Chicago and I'm used to great public transport with buses and train - does L.A. have a train and are buses decent?

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You need a car to live in socal

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I don’t even bother to look at public transportation unless I’m going pretty long distance thru amtrak or something.

Train is getting better, and it’s the largest bus network in the world, though that doesn’t mean it will get you were you want to be in a timely manner. If you’re planning to not own a car, then downtown LA is pretty much the only place that is possible. If you want to commute by the Metro light rail (not MetroLink which is a suburban heavy rail commuter train) then make sure your home and office are walking distance from stations on the same line. Your commute will be too long if you need to switch lines.

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Thanks, how much is a Metro Light Rail ticket? Can you buy like an annual pass?

Lived in LA for 10. Been in Chicago for 8.

Really can’t rely on transit only in LA. Even if you architect a commute via transit (by living and working near a train/express bus), you’ll want a car on the weekends.

Hard to overstate the scale of LA. You drive 50 miles in more or less a straight line (Chatsworth to the Harbor) and still be city limits. That’s basically Lincoln Park to Wisconsin

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The metro is decent if you live by any of the stops. Honestly, I think it’s pretty hard to live in LA without a car unless you don’t really want to venture out of the neighborhood you live in.

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Thanks, that's actually not too bad for 20 miles. Moving 5 miles in Chicago takes me an hour sometimes

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It really depends on where you live and what you’re doing. I too moved from Chicago to LA. My wife is originally from LA and her fam is really good at using public transportation. When we first moved to LA, we lived in Santa Monica and my previous firms office was in DTLA...used to hop on the train all the time to get downtown. Then we moved and the train just wasn’t convenient anymore. If public transportation is important to you, you can totally do it...just will take some additional planning

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If you live off the Red Line, Purple Line (which is expanding), or the Expo Line, or you live in DTLA, you’ll be able to get most places in the city or be/get to where a short Uber finishes the job. The Flyaway bus is a great way to/from LAX. The rest of the metro buses are hit/miss, but the Dash system is usually pretty great.

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The west coast is a joke when it comes to mass transit.

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Any thing along the east west train into downtown is super easy. I live in Santa Monica and often take the train DTLA for events. OP, to your question about an annual pass, google will be your friend. I don’t use it more than once a month, so I’ve never looked into it

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The train does not currently run to LAX, but that is under construction (probably will be finished around your time to retirement)

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It will be done before the Olympics. Its going up fast and is scheduled for 2023

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the thing about LA isn’t the amount of traffic as much as the enormous distance between places you want to go. obviously when you drive 20 miles in a city with a lot of people, it might take an hour... it’s 20 miles.

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Public transportation in LA is virtually non existent / worthless unless you go very far out of your way to force it to work. Anyone who tells you otherwise is not doing you any favors.

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