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Tom Morello just tweeted this.
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I've spent 5 years in LA and 3 in SF - it's a totally different lifestyle and scene. If you mostly travel for work, it's not such an issue, but if you're TMT focused go with SF. When I was in B4 all our LA staff would fly up to SF for client projects, LA's industry is weird: lots of entertainment, industrials, and some finance, but not much else. SF has tech, biotech / health core and we never have had people on the bench.
Socially, I found SF to be nerdy, way less diverse than LA, with friendlier people, but also people are just plain less attractive / more sloppy. Can't beat the entertainment industry influence in LA. My friends from NYC would visit me in LA and comment on how attractive and out together people are at Sunday brunches - it's real.
LA is way more diverse and huge - the different areas are different towns and cities of their own. SF feels like a small town which found its self a tech center somehow. The food in LA is WAY better and more varied. SF shuts down at 10 PM latest, it has a sleepy vibe - good luck finding an open kitchen after then! It was shocking when I moved from LA. LA is a legit city, but find the right neighborhood for you and you'll likely spend 90% of your time there and only brave traffic for events or brunches.
Good points SVP 2! Totally agree re the outdoors in SF - it's why I moved up to the bay from LA. You've only really got the desert and big bear in socal, and ocean activities vs the redwoods and Sierra Nevada range in SF.
There is indeed zero nightlife in SF, don't have any expectations going up there.
Interesting point about the friendliness, I think this is such a case by case experience. I agree though that NYC wins hands down. In LA I did find really cool and friendly people, but had to go the beach community and arts route. There are tons of scenesters in entertainment and finance there. The tech bro culture in SF should be avoided, and also all the VC bros.
I will say that I found the homelessness problem in SF to be much worse than LA - probably because it is worst in the Tenderloin and financial district where most offices are, vs east downtown / skid row in LA where there aren't as many people working and living.
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Grew up in LA > 10 years in SF > moved back to LA last 2 years.
For dating: SF, hands down. You will be swarmed with eligible, high income bachelors. Expect zoom dates for the foreseeable future.
For everything else, LA. The best part of SF used to be the social scene (for me), and with covid that’s now over. So there is literally no reason to be in SF anymore. Most of my SF friends have already moved away or in the process.
LA has everything for a good lifestyle: fantastic weather, lots of outdoor activities (beach/hiking/parks), lower cost of living, great food, diverse neighborhoods.
If you’re struggling between the decision of LA vs SF then stay in LA west-side (Santa Monica/Marina Del Rey), which would be the best of both worlds. Fun Social scene and nice neighborhoods paired with fantastic weather.
LA is hard to make friends and you need a car more superficial too. SF is chill nerdy hilly and more expensive also smaller. Cars barely possible.
While u won’t “need” a car in SF, i would argue that rn you prob won’t be so eager to get on public transport and uber everywhere currently so you’d be mostly stuck within walking distance
Two completely different worlds. LA is sunny, fun, warm, friendlier and overall more social. San Fran is a major city, techy, nerdy, smarter people lol. Apples and oranges, depends on your background and what you’d prefer
Per M1’s comment, SF is a bit more on the pretentious side and people take themselves very seriously.
L.A. is a bit more relaxed, especially West L.A. There’s a ton to explore in Los Angeles. Normally I would say pick your neighborhood to be near your office and your overall vibe, but these days, you might be better off with a fun place by the beach in South Bay or a house in the valley near a ton of trails and other outdoor activities.
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Tell us who you are as a stereotype and everyone will have opinions.
Also, are you male or female, and are you single? If you are single, are you trying not to be?
35F, single (trying not to be), expat and been in the US one year
Has the same dilemma and chose LA. Visited SF and prefer the weather here a lot. Social scene isn’t the easiest
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I live in LA and love it, but I visit SF often for work and fun and love SF too. A couple LA pros: better weather, more options for more affordable apartments and homes, more beaches you can actually lay out in. SF pros: you can get away with not getting a car/good public transportation and walk-ability & fun scene. Both cities have great restaurants and bars. Sorry I don’t know much more about SF in terms of what it would be like to live there, but feel free to message me if you have questions about LA!
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I work in downtown LA and live about 12 miles away from the office and commute is about 45 min (pre-covid), which is another LA con but I don’t mind it too much.
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If you like warm weather then LA. SF is chilly and cloudy year round.
Chicago and the northeast have seasons. SF has overcast and chilly weather except for a few weeks here and there. And the cold summers are depressing. At least it gets warm pretty much everywhere else.
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LA for sure. SF has become overrun with transplants from the midwest and reallly ruined diversity of culture there. It isn't the hip cultured city it used to be unless you're into the tech bro culture.
Mark Twain famously lamented in “Roughing It”: “The coldest winter I ever knew was a summer in San Francisco!” But S.F. is a beautiful hilly city on a baby while L.A. is large, sprawling and ugly. Plus the bad air should not be overlooked.... S.F. also is the home of Anchor Steam 🍺 beer and sourdough bread, i which is a major plus.
Lived in both, LA by a mile, if you plan to have a life that is. The people here are also more diverse and more interesting. SF is very tech centric and it gets boring after some time.
Thanks everyone! Very helpful