McKinsey & Company Bain & Company Ladder at Deloitte:

Analyst (~2 years)
Consultant (2-3 years)
Sr. Consultant (3-4 years)
Manager (3-4 years, rearly 5)
Sr. Manager (3-6 years)
Partner/Managing Director

What’s the ladder at other consulting firms?
Accenture Deloitte EY PwC Boston Consulting Group Bain & Company KPMG McKinsey & Company

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That's a really aggressive timeline to PMD at Deloitte. Haven't seen anyone do it in 3 in the last 8 years, maybe longer (you need 3 straight years of PMD metrics to make it so super hard for someone to do it in 3). 5 is normal in commercial, 6 in GPS. 4 is early. So, 4-8 would be the timeline I'd list.

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1 year could be a fluke, no? 2 years is closer to a pattern, three is consistent. Partners aren't at will employees, right? So you don't want to promote someone to partner and then find out that they aren't living up.

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PwC

Associate (~3 years)
Senior Associate (~3 years)
Manager (~2 years)
Senior Manager (~2 years)
Director (really depends, 4-8 years)
Partner/Managing Director

For first year associates, there’s technically an automatic promotion termed “Experienced Associate” when going from first to second year associate.

I should add these are approx averages based on my experience. Time can really really vary.

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Did you find out why they offered a low level?

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Making slides (4 years)
Fixing slides (6 years)
Selling slides (many more years)

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Also works:

Getting yelled at for bad slides (4 years)

Yelling at people for bad slides + getting yelled at for bad slide review (6 years)

Selling slides and yelling at people so you can pay alimony (forever)

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I don’t get what fundamental skill shift occurs between analyst - sr consultant besides time going by?

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To the extent there is a timing gap, it’s algebraic. In traditional S&O, it’s up or out. So if, say, you target 30% attrition at a SC level, you will more quickly be able to promote people at the level below, and hire more people on a recurring basis. If attrition (forced or otherwise is lower), then, barring massive unplanned growth, you’ll be able to promote fewer. If your portfolio of services is more complex, that will compound the math.

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Mckinsey:

BA (2-3 yrs)
EM (2-3 yrs)
AP (2-3yrs)
Partner (5-8 yrs)
Sr Partner (xx years)
Global Managing Partner (xx years)
Canada’s Ambassador to China (xx years)

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Thought that was Senior Partner

Rearly

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Accenture For Up and Out Tracks

Analyst (1 year)
Sr. Analyst (1-2 years)
Consultant (2-3 years)
Manager (2-4 years)
Senior Manager (5-6 years)
Managing Director

Accenture (for non up and out tracks)

Analyst
Senior Analyst
Consultant
Associate Manager
Manager
Senior Manager
Managing Director

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The non- up & out in MC is actually:
Analyst - L11 or L10 (dift groups)
Senior Analyst - L9
Consultant - L8
Manager - L7
Senior Principal - L6
Principal Director (landing spot) - L5
Executive Principal Director (recently heard you can go up levels as PD) - L4 and up

It takes 9 years to be a manager? Something is off fam lol

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Deloitte’s 6-9 years path to Manager out of undergrad is the biggest BS I’ve ever seen. Seems a lot longer than everyone else out there, especially compared against McK’s 3 yr path. No idea how they can continue to market themselves as a top undergrad employer on campus while keeping a straight face.

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Come on A1 - we all know that the real reason why undergrads pick D over all the other firms is due to that sweet brisket they serve @ the DU Barn

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That's a long time at Sr. Consultant

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Yeah what

EY (consulting)
Staff Consultant (2 yrs)
Senior consultant (2-3 yrs)
Manager (3-5 yrs)
Senior Manager (4-7+yrs)
Executive Director/Managing Director (depends if internal track or external)
Partner/Principal (infinity and beyond)

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Manager

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Senior manager is more like 5-8 now

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Bain:

Associate (2 yrs)
Senior Associate (.5-1 yr)
Consultant (2 yrs)
Manager (.5-1.5 yrs)
Senior Manager (2.5 yrs)
Associate Partner (1-? yrs - no up or out)
Partner

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5-6 YOE, no MBA? An experienced hire with that would come in as a C

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Manager is 5 as target now and has been for a couple years. 4 is early.

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Ah, makes more sense, apologies

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At BCG, if you totally crush it you can go from Associate to Managing Director and Partner (owner) in under a decade.

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Is it just PL to Pr 6 months early or is there a fast promote from Pt to MDP too?

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KPMG:
Associate 2-3 years
Senior associate 2-3 years
Manager 3-4 years
Director 4-7+ years
PPMD

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IBM1, are you saying you want to come to KPMG?

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ZS:

Associate (2-3yrs)
Associate consultant (2-3yrs)
Consultant (2.5-3.5yrs)
Manager (3-5yrs)
Associate Principal (2-3yrs)
Principal

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At least D has the C/SC split, we have roughly the same timeline to M with one less role before it. Makes our progression look awful when recruiting. This is for MC not TC (much quicker).

Analyst 2-4 years
Associate 3-4 years
Manager 3-5 years
Director 3-5 years
Sr. Director 3-5 years
MD

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LEK:

Associate (1.5-2 years)
Associate consultant (1.5-2 years)
Consultant (1.5-3 years)
Manager (1.5-3 years)
Senior manager (1-2 years)
Principal (1-2 years)
Partner

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AC is 6-12 months and SAC is 6-12 months

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At any point you slip on time on that ladder, you tend to be pushed on specialist path with no set timeframes for the next level

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