Like this post if your thanksgiving is shot (again) because of work, and your holidays will (again) be shot because Q4

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Just curious, have you tried putting up boundaries around the holidays before? I’m as guilty as anyone in thinking that it’s “just not possible” to say no to meeting a crazy deadline, but I really might try to do it this year. I’m in good standing at my firm so I think things would have to get pretty bad before they would consider firing me. Just wondering if you (or anyone) has tried it

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For internal deadlines, maybe, but when it’s the client’s deadline that sprung up, I have not heard of anyone incl partner pushing back or putting boundaries to protect the holidays because “we get paid to be available 24/7”

I am off tomorrow and then working on Friday by choice because there is some stuff that is mostly mindless I can do that will let me bill 4-8 hours depending on how motivated I am. Our office closes early today too. The partners and more senior associates on my team are most likely taking a half day or less on Friday. I was told that I definitely shouldn’t come to the office and teased for being a workaholic so the expectations on my billables for Friday are low. We don’t allow our clients to bully us and the firm values “work life balance”.

I’d suggest you set boundaries or otherwise consider whether you might be happier somewhere else. Not every firm will grind you down so much.

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Yeah that’s rough. At least you’ll have exit options when you’re ready. I’m at a midsized boutique and the culture is very much compatible with wellbeing. We all work hard and definitely longer hours but it’s not the worst type of grind except for when it’s crunch time on a deal. I work 8:30-7/7:30 most days but I have a lot of flexibility as well. It pays six figures but not on the Cravath scale. It’s worth the weekends off though and decent work/life balance. I guess if you can tolerate it now it may be worth it for whatever it is you do next.

Same here!

just out of curiosity what practice groups are u guys in?

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Shot but because of covid.

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