Looking for thoughts and opinions about HR involvement in employee promotions. More specifically passing up an experienced employee for not having a college degree. We have an employee in our office, who applied for a promotion and despite having a degree, would be a perfect fit. Several supervisors recommended this employee for the position but HR denied the promotion for lack of a degree. I have a graduate degree and I still feel that experience is sometimes more valuable. Thoughts?

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IMO if they aren’t doing and/or managing the role, they shouldn’t be setting requirements. UNLESS it’s a requirement across the company and they are just enforcing policy. I still don’t agree with it and would probably start trying to change it. 😅 But overall, I value experience over degree! And if your company won’t value it…another one will.

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I think that it’s inequitable to deny a person an opportunity to advance based solely on their degree status. However, I also believe that there are certain things that come along with having the education. Depending on the job I would want to explore the person’s understanding of specific skills and knowledge. In my field it would be inappropriate and dangerous to allow someone without the necessary degrees to do my job. What about creating a position for that person that removes some of the roles and responsibilities that would require a certain level of educational attainment?

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