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Lots of middle-upper class lawyers in here. Where’s all my poverty buddies at sitting at 130% FPL or less? 🙋🏻‍♂️

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130% of FPL for a two person household would be $22,412 per year (gross). For a single person household it would be $16,588. What part of the country are you in? It must be incredibly difficult meeting your basic needs with that income. I’ve never heard of any attorney positions paying that little. Are you trying to build a solo practice without any clients yet? It sounds like an extremely stressful situation. I’m sorry that you’re dealing with that. Do you want advice or just a space to vent?

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I live in the middle of nowhere so it’s cheap. $15k pays the rent but I have roaches, bad neighbors (gun threats, crime, etc.) SNAP helps with food. Medicaid for healthcare. Thank god for the Affordable Care Act. I’ve been trying to get out of it but I’m not a desirable hire. Poor experience, job gaps, low tier school, no car, health problems. Hard for me to get those cozy “firm jobs” that pay a lot so I do a lot of side gig work, or like legal assistant stuff. I’ve been this poor my whole life so it doesn’t bother me much. It’s just a bit annoying seeing my law school peers, some of which who did worse and are worse people, do just fine because their families had money and connections to hook them up with a career. I’m on my own out here. I use Fishbowl as a place to vent mostly. A lot of lawyers don’t get to see the depths of the bad side. Thank god someone bought me an iPhone and pays my phone bill for me to be here, haha.

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What’s FPL? Goddamn, I don’t even know the terminology, I MUST be poor.

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Federal Poverty Level is correct. 130% is generally the requirement for SNAP and Medicaid.😅 If you don’t know what it is you’re probably doing well because you don’t check it yearly to ensure you’re at the benchmark for your government aid programs.

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What kind of law do you practice?

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The kind of any firm that’ll hire me.

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If this were my reality, I would 100% leave the practice of law and find another job that pays me more than $17K. Sounds like you don’t have kids? I want you to want to make more money than this. Sometimes in life, you need to evaluate your “dreams” and ask yourself why you’re pursuing them. I say this, of course, knowing (and somewhat hoping) that my words may spark a fierce fire in you to power through and take what’s yours - whether in law or some other career. Best of luck. I’m rooting for you.

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Then go get it! You can do this. Our stories begin in a way that is eerily similar. Grew up in poverty, bad law school, huge debts, no network, no formal experience. The difference is obvious though. You’re stronger and more persistent than I am. I just told you I would have quit the fight early on, and I stand by that. You have moxie, obviously, so keep it up. Find a way to explain away the gaps/weaknesses in your resume in a way that highlights the adversity you’ve faced. Your story isn’t run of the mill, so make sure your potential employers know that. It’s an asset.

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🙋‍♀️

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I'm making more now that. I ever did as an attorney.

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Solo here. In that pay grade. Yes, it’s tough. Rewarding in other ways sometimes.

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