Traveling in and out of the US is such a tense experience. It's crazy how welcoming and how smooth the process can be in other country, but the US feels like entering/leaving a fascist dystopia.

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9/11/01.

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What happened on 9th of November?

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“Fascist dystopia” is just today’s phrase on their “politically charged and ignorant phrase of the day” calendar

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Then stay wherever you are, I’m sure it’s a democratic paradise

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Oh A3 how sad for you that you felt the need to go there. Ill pray for you ;)

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Sir this is a Starbucks

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I have to add - the fact that you say leaving the US is a “fascist dystopia” makes next to zero sense. The US is one of the only countries in the world that doesn’t have passport control on exit when flying international from airports. There are literally zero steps you go through with supposed fascist people to leave the US.

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Sigh...fine...one last post to you and I’m done.
1. I’ve LIVED in 4 different countries. For an extended time, which allows me the luxury of comparisons of things like security within the borders of said country.
2. Which brings me to the next point. You purposely interjected your own views into VPs original post. Nowhere does that person discuss police or any other internal domestic security. The only logical conclusion is that you disregarded the entire purpose of this thread (airport security) in order to use this as a platform for your own agenda. I, as I’m sure others, take umbrage at that.
3. If you want to complain about the state of security in the US, create another thread and start there. Don’t hijack this one with a slew of assumptions (I’ve never lived outside the US, the intentions of VPs post etc) that are incorrect and worse yet, show a distinct lack of logical thinking ability from you.

Now, I’m almost to my destination which will surely require a cold beer to erase your lunacy from my memory. Happy holidays.

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Are you speaking of a specific airport? In my experience every airport is very different on the arrival and immigration experience.

What makes it seem fascist?

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Pretty easy with a passport

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“Fascist"

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Ever tried china? Please don’t compare the US to countries that people don’t have much interest in entering

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I have found in recent years the experience is quite good as an American but noticeably hostile or difficult sometimes for my non-American friends. Agree it's much worse than lots of other countries.

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Hang on...you travel on the single most used narcotic traffic route in the Western Hemisphere...to a key supply point for narcotics and you’re surprised people talk to you?? Sheesh.

Source: I’m drinking a Club Colombia while eating an arepa in Bogota as I type this.

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Were you alive on September 11, 2001?

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It's probably not designed for anything, not even to be intimidating or for building confidence.

You give an org a wastefully high budget and no accountability to Targets/KPIs and that's what you get. Work and Things for the sake of having Work and Things ie. Justifying the need for your job. It would be the exact same in other countries, if their budget was bigger.

Look at how Security is always friendlier at smaller airports.

Just imagine what an effective Strategy Firm could do to the whole process if they didn't have to deal with Unions and Regs. Same result, better customer experience. Faster, less invasive, less intimidating.
It would all come at the expense of headcount.

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Wait until you get to Bogotá and let me know which immigration you prefer... I would rather go through global entry in 5 mins then sit in an hour long line in Bogotá. Oh, I got SSSS on my boarding pass, fine, search my bag for 5 mins before I board.

Ready to leave Bogotá? Another hour long line.

Enjoy!

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This is truth. It’s not horrible, but it ain’t as easy as the US. OP is simply being emotional and saying things that are dramatic...I’m guessing to vent

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I’m happy to answer some questions, have lines changed on me for no reason, and put up with the additional red tape if it means ISIS is prevented from setting up camp in Montana.

Fascist dystopia would be answering those questions truthfully at the security checkpoint but still being drained for a month because someone at your company tipped you off as making politically incorrect comments last week.

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We are sure lucky we didn't have more people like you around 250 years ago. We never would have gotten a bill of rights. We have a second amendment? It just takes one. Why have a 5th, it just takes one. Why don't we require interlock devices on every car, it just takes one.

I am constantly surprised that in 70 years we went from a country that could storm Omaha beach to one that is convinced everyone needs to pull their pants down before they get on a plane because it just takes one.

Try going to Canada.

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Fascist dystopia is an exaggerated representation. On the contrary, US has a simplified process compared to a lot of other countries. For US citizens, it’s pretty straight forward. I would tend to agree that for those on an H1-B or a B-1 visa, it would be a tense process entering in the US. The immigration officers can ask tough questions, which may make the traveler a little tense. They are doing their job to ascertain the credentials and veracity of the traveler’s response. The TSA is by far an efficient organization, which does its job diligently. At times, one can be pulled aside for random screening. Sometimes they can resort to additional questioning based on destination of travel. In summary, I would disagree that the experience is tense. In my opinion, the US has a very simplified process, which is devoid of any unnecessary paperwork or checks, process is simplified and as a result, a12 year old can also travel with ease.

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You mean you don't enjoy your front row seat to the security theatre? 😐

OP where are you from originally?

Fascist dystopia is pure hyperbole. I would say flying is a major inconvenience in the US due to poor infrastructure and overcrowded airports. Our incompetent TSA makes traveling worse than it needs to be. I have flown in the EU and have been pulled aside for screenings by unfriendly customs agents in Italy, and it was much more uncomfortable than in the US. I think we all feel weird and uncomfortable when clearing security in foreign countries.

Have you traveled to say Nigeria ?

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