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A good counselor is a very strong asset, particular come round tables. It's worth the awkwardness to find a good one.
EY 6, plenty of people do not have an expansive understanding of managers and above in their network who could be a good counselor. You don't want to ask someone directly to be your counselor (at least not right away) because you might put them in an awkward position if they are actually busy and can't commit. I recommend asking someone with visibility into the process and availability of potential counselors (such as a SM or PPED). You don't want to phrase it like you are asking them to find you one - instead phrase it as you don't want to ask people who might be too busy with client obligations and want to know about people who would be available/open to taking on a new counselee. Then, they can make a referral or recommendation for you:
How can I do that without making it awkward?
Mine sucks too, not my person at all. I kind of think I got an average rating cause he didn't put any effort. EY people, when is the deadline to request a different one?
You do know it's counselor changing season, right (at least I don't think the time has passed)? If your counselor sucks, request a new one.
So mine never responds to emails and we never met before royndtables
Fuck awkward, this is about your career and your pocket. Counselors need to understand that not every counselee assigned to them will be a good fit. They should encourage those counselees they can't help to seek out new counselors that might be able to help them.
If your counselor sucks, absolutely change to someone else. It's your career so do what is best for you. Also, a sucky counselor will probably be glad to be relieved of the duty.
If you can't think of a person who would be a good counselor to you, you're probably the problem.
You are very welcome! I know several people in this position before, it's not at all uncommon. Changing counselors is very common and if it helps your career, do it. Just know, now is a good time to switch. I think there is a certain timeframe in which you are allowed to do it. After that there is more paperwork and it's hard to make the case.
@EY8 I would say i think it makes sense to have a counselor that is not on all or several of your engagements. I think they can be more objective if you're not always working closely with them. But as EY7 noted, your current situation could be more beneficial than you realize.
@EY1 well the engagements are owned by another manager who has left EY. I got on very well with that manager. My counselor picked up her projects, didn't know anything although he's trained, forwarded every single client emails staff, screwed up the demos and tried to take all team credits while he doesn't know anything. Senior and staff had to do all manager work and stop him from making any stupid moves. As a counselor, he submitted my mid-year review without talking to me, refused to write a project review saying he had to write a counselor reviewing anyways and tried to push back my YE discussion for two weeks. He did the same thing to the other counselees, but they are lucky that they don't work on any projects with him.
I've been pretty fortunate with mine. We go for lunch and discussion quarterly, they reach out from time to time to check in, helped me with my YE self review, discussed the rating that was being recommended for me going into round tables, etc. If your counselor isn't doing these things, there is nothing wrong with you requesting a new one. In fact, it would behoove us all to report the problems you guys are having. Based on some of these threads, counselor problems are pervasive.
Not sure on the "open change" deadline, but I think you can technically change at any time, but you might need to explain your rationale if outside the open period.
EY 3, so true! I am going to switch.
Definitely switch...additionally new review system will be set up to emphasize what a good counselor means and likely reward as such
Same... my counselor sucks. But what do you do if you cant think of another person to be your counselor?
Good advice, EY 7, thank you!
Ok, I will start the process next week. Thanks again :))
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