My manager is asking the entire team to work the weekend to hit a Monday deadline. Thinking of asking for Monday and Tuesday off next week in exchange? This seems reasonable to me. Managers would you annoyed with this response or request?

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Yes, I’d be annoyed. This industry is demanding and sometimes requires weekend work. It comes with the territory that is client services. If you don’t like it, don’t work in consulting.

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You are all worthless and weak. 18 hour shifts. 7 days per week. That is what it takes to make make it in this business. Now I’ve mentored you. And you’ll thank me for it by eating your own expenses. “Rest” on your time, troglodytes. And I’m going to need you to work Christmas Day as well. Pay cuts in your stockings! All of you!

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I am glad this post has turned into a roast of Accenture 1. Well deserved

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UPDATE : I asked and he said “not Monday and Tuesday. I need you available, take next Thursday and Friday off” 4 day weekend for me after this!

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That’s what I would have done OP. If my team is working full hours on the weekend. I’d definitely try to work in those off days as soon as possible without them asking.

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I think its a fair ask

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Nothing in consulting is so life threatening to must have it ready first thing Monday 5am there’s just no such thing. Your manager hallucinating thinking he/she in a must more important profession. Please fix!

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How about regulatory deadline to submit? Failure to comply could result in fines, reputational and/or business risk - revoked charters, etc.

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I think it’s fair to ask but also understand the demands of a project. Back when I’d be working a diligence we’d be working crazy hours and all throughout the weekend for weeks on end. But at the end I had a great manager who told me and the rest of the team to take a week “off” but still be billable. Was nice to have a code to hit for a week without having to hit PTO. Really appreciated these managers.

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Monday might be tough if you’re involved in actual delivery or addressing last minute comments. It’s completely fair to decompress and take time off, especially at a pause point.

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^This. Getting a couple days back makes sense, but Monday is likely going to be spent working out go live issues.

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Lean in and do your job

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^honestly, I have to say thats fair. I see so many Navigant name tags on this app that I forget they merged. And mentally disassociating “Guidehouse” from the government contracting work that was virtually their entire business before the merger will always be a struggle for me.

Mea culpa.

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Maybe monday and tuesday are not so good because they are too close to the delivery date and there are always errands.
Ask for next friday and monday. If they ever tell you not to recover those working days, leave.

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and here, let me explain: if they tell you to put on billable time sat and sun, put non billable fri and mon.
If they tell you not to put your hours, chargr to billable 2 days while doing PTO. Is fair

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I’d be totally fine to give you time off in lieu. However, if you don’t really need that right now, I’d just agree with the manager that you will take 2 days off some time later and club it with a public holiday or a weekend to enjoy longer, relaxed time off.

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It’s fine to ask. Be ready to be a tad flexible, but your lead should be understanding if you’re diving in to help meet a tight deadline.

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This is alright if planned in advance or a major technical issue identified recently.I have worked on tons of weekends during my support and go-live roles and never complained .
It helped me to grow .

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Yes, reasonable ask but find the right days to unplug. Otherwise stuff will pile up and you'll be back in square one.

I feel that survival in this gig is a lot about finding balance. If a project went extremely well, you're not necessarily a genius. If a project went extremely badly, you're not necessarily an imbecile. Beware and learn to navigate the extremes.

Same with managing your energy. You can't always be burning the weekend oil, and you can't hope to always have 40 hour weeks.

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Wow.. we pretty much gave the same advise.. kudos!

Manager, Consulting. If a client restricts making any kind of changes to the environment including Dev & Test until after work hours, how should this be handled by our leadership team? Technical folks are constantly asked to work evenings and weekends for all change requests and it’s burning everyone out as expected and it’s been going on for months now with no end in sight. What’s the best way to approach this?

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For the teams I manage, if there is a deployment and it’s expected over night or on the weekend, I let the team recoup those hours by logging on at lunch that day or taking the afternoon off to run errands they would have done during the deployment.

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I think it depends on the project. If the project is on track and the client is happy with it, than it seems reasonable to take a few days off without major consequences. However, if the project is on fire, I’d be slightly annoyed if someone asked for some days off with this short notice. I would, however, try and negotiate to give back the days further down the project

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I would definitely ask for days off in exchange if they are not offered automatically.
Whether it is feasible to have them immediately or in a couple of weeks depends on the project situation, I would say.

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I think it is reasonable. I would give it to my team.

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That’s awesome to hear P1 👍 wish I was part of your team. In my 5+ years with the firm, no one ever mentioned this option even as a joke ( I can say I’ve worked on 10-20% of all weekends during this time, also including firm shutdowns)

It’s common practice (at least for us). If there is a real need for full time week end work, for example in a DD where the client needs to send a bid on a Tuesday you just have to work over the week end, the team takes 1-2 days off once the job is done, “on the project” (meaning you don’t consume your PTO). You shouldn’t even have to ask, and it’s certainly not a problem if you do ask

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That’s what you sign up for when you join a consulting firms. Even employees at a bank will work OT/ weekend for a deployment. If it is happening constantly that might be another story but every now and then should not be an issue. I will be working few hours over the weekend to finalize a RFP submission for Monday. It’s part of the game!

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P2 - you choosing to work on a weekend doesn’t mean it is the new normal for all. I’m with you in principle, just suggesting a different perspective. A PPMD making cosmetic edits to a proposal on a weekend is very different from a C or M actually stressing their imagination to reverse engineer a deliverable / proposal for what I pulled from thin air when promising a client something.

OP - no need to be so salty and cheeky.

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I would not ask for it ,if it is once in a while and on other days your work is not too much. I consider it as payback, as there will be so many days I have not worked more than half day.
Also, I always try to make sure that my team is effectively working only 6 hours a day and allow them to take day off whenever they want.
So you can take off , just plan it well so that it doesn't impact your team as someone will have to do the work.
If you always have to work crazy , then change your team. As you are either with poorly managed project or just unlucky.

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