I have a client who has gotten in the habit of only calling my cell phone, without notice, rather than my office phone, always expects me to be available at a moment’s notice and often wants same or next day turnaround. To some extent I may be responsible in trying so hard to please, and he’s a top client but not my only of course. Any tips for bringing this relationship back down to earth without upsetting the apple cart? I’m tired of my days constantly being flipped upside down.
My company told me that as well, I waited until I had the offer in hand. They asked me what it would take to stay, and I gave them my terms. They said congratulations and see you later.
Sorry but this is very funny. That company didn’t deserve you clearly.
Only inform them once you have an offer that you plan to accept, then provide the customary two weeks' notice. That's perfectly acceptable and reasonable.
What's not reasonable is for your manager to expect you to share your plans with them before they are finalized. HARD NO. They might turn around and fire you first, and then where would you be?
Seems like bait. If they are only interested in offering additional compensation if you are planning on leaving that seems like a pretty good reason to leave.
I’ve said to let me know if you’re unhappy with your job and it was not a trap. I want to know if people are unhappy and why so that I can do something about it. If we’ve fallen behind market, your work has gotten stale, or you’re not clicking with your boss, I might be able to help. But only if I know about it.
Now sometimes shitty bosses say that too. And then it’s a trap. So know which case you’re in…
It is but isn't. I've had this happen to me and they ended up letting me go after I gave my answer. So beware.
Yeah true. My friend got a similar sort of "warning" but it was more like "We love you and please let us know if you are ever thinking of leaving." Have never heard of an employer saying it as a kind of trap...but people can be shady for sure.
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Not entirely. Firms are offering pretty sizable retention bonuses, but out of cation I wouldn’t bring it up until you have an offer in hand elsewhere in case they’re going to can you ahead of time.
Never do that.
Tell them nothing till the background check on your new written offer has come back and you have a joining date scheduled.
I think I still wouldn’t say anything until I actually had another offer in hand. They might have good intentions, but I always try to air on the side of caution.
OP the other thing with this is if they give you a substantial raise or something like that to stay. HR is going to paint a target on your back. You should just figure out if you really want to leave or not. I find a lot of companies if you go away on good terms you can come back usually with better money and a better position.
Retention is a big challenge for many companies right now so I understand your manager wanting to get ahead of it. Their request might not be sinister right now. But do NOT respond to it.
Every company and every manager has a list, even if it's only in people's heads and not actually documented. That is the list of people who they would cut if they had to downsize and still conduct business. If you actually tell your manager you are a flight risk, you WILL be added to that list.
I also ask this and it’s not a trap - my job is to develop my team even if that means it develops them into a new role in or out of my company. I do my best to retain top talent until that point though, so if someone is actively looking for a lateral move just to leave - I try to remedy the situation if I (and my budget) can.
I usually discuss what my career goals are and what I am looking to grown into with my managers but I would never disclose if I am looking to leave before I have an offer. By the time I have invested my time ans effort in looking and finding another employer, usually means I have made my decision to leave because my managers failed to give me the growth that I was looking for after many conversations. My leaving the company has a lot to do with the company not realizing that they needed to invest in my growth while they had the chance. This is where I find some companies and managers fail.
You might want to see this as an opportunity to get more information. Maybe the manager is about to leave and wants to take you with him. Maybe a layoff is coming. It's a poor thing for a manager to say, so there is probably something behind it.
Your response depends on your style and relationship with the manager, but I would say something like "I have no such plans. I like it here. Why, what's up?"
It all depends on your perception and experience of the integrity of the manager and the firm.
Yes. I had a manager at a previous job try to tell me she needed 6-8 months notice if I was looking elsewhere. You’re under no obligation to do such a thing unless it’s in your contract, and doing so might lead to them trying to get rid of you early.
I don't think an employee would think about switching unless they're undervalued and/or underpaid. No manager can take that thought back even if they know you're planning to leave. If they increase your comp, it's a new cycle.
my hunch is just the opposite. she/he likely wants to keep you, and is concerned of loosign you with this super hot job market. you can use this to your advantage. it is one of those times that you as an employee, have some leverage. if i can help further and think through your strategy, feel free to reach out to me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanjstein/