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Anyone knows what happened to the flu?
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I hate that this is our choice 😢
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Have had similar situations, as a healthy Millennial who is low risk but wearing a mask and limiting contact. I’ve found that in times like these, compassion is the best approach...even though it is admittedly
frustrating.
Visual Storyteller
From the creators of “I told you so”, here comes “You Had It Coming”.
The managing partner at my firm said he’d been eyeing a return to the office in JUNE (!!!!) and them himself got Covid. We’re still WFH.
Rising Star
Nah I don’t like this. March was very early in its lifecycle. A lot of people including me felt the same way. The facts become uncovered between then and April.
I’m all about putting Covidiots in their place but, in all fairness, a lot has changed since March. So many people have changed their perspective on this situation.
Rising Star
Agreed! March was very early and it was very new to all of us
Enthusiast
I’ve been telling her this is serious since February because my families were in Wuhan. Nobody believed me in the office except for one colleague whose wife is Asian. There were colleagues laughing at me and making fun of me disrespectfully. When I told my manager I was not comfortable being treated like this in the office and would like to work from home, she thought I was having psychological and mental breakdown. I gave up lecturing everyone and when the company sent out email in March saying whoever didn’t feel comfortable going to office can work from home, I decided to be the first one in our team to stop going to office. I told her this is not flu back in July and still she thinks it’s nothing and even if you get it most people don’t even have symptoms and they wanted to have team outings... do I feel sorry for her? Yes. Does she deserve it? No, nobody deserves it. But they could’ve helped with controlling the spread if they don’t organize big parties or go back to absolutely normal life and do vacation trips as if nothing happened.
Enthusiast
While many people have been warning including WSJ earning in early January, many peope places more reliance in the political WHO and sleepy CDC unfortunately
Enthusiast
Hindsight is Always 2020🤪 more so in 2020
Many including the CDC would have been Covidots about masks in March
Chief
Treat your manager the way you would’ve wanted her to treat you back in March.
Easier said than done but kindness is always good.
Enthusiast
Do I feel sorry for her? Yes but she chose to do vacation trips and have big parties for the kids then she should’ve thought the consequence too. I just hope they would do proper quarantine until the son gets negative result from the test
Rising Star
I’ve noticed the same- people who were “not worried” getting very stressed when they might actually have it. I have a friend that was cavalier then got really depressed after getting a positive. For myself, I’m mostly worried about what people call “long covid”- the one that stretches out for months. It seems to not correlate to age/health status- just random.
Anyway, yeah I’d be kind.
Don't vilify people for changing their minds. Otherwise it will discourage them from admitting they were wrong.
Say you're sorry to hear that and you'll keep her son in your thoughts and prayers.
Enthusiast
This is a lie though lol
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy
Enthusiast
If she’s a good manager in general I would feel sorry for her and care more. but I can tell you half of the team who actually work hard do not like her because whenever there is achievement it’s always her credit and nobody got recognized. And on top of that the other half who don’t work or deliver at all still get the promotion because they’ve been with the team longer. There are a lot of other reasons I don’t feel anything about this besides a diplomatic “I’m sorry to hear that”.
Chief
Do you have to say anything at all? Sometimes saying nothing says it all
Enthusiast
BAH1 you don’t know what we’ve been through then you don’t get to judge. I do hope you don’t end up in our situation in the future.
Conversation Starter
Did you see that the CDC confirm that out of the 182k deaths only 6% of those are deaths directly cause by covid. The other deaths are people that have 2-3 other medical issues... So you should reassure her that her son has a higher chance of being ok if he doesn't have any other health issues and does catch it.
Rising Star
You’d have to first model that missed COVID deaths don’t outnumber incorrectly listed as COVID deaths, before this conspiracy goes anywhere.
Tossing out cause of death data means using overall mortality data, which is +200k, so you don’t really get anywhere with this.
I guess she wasn’t worried when the son went to the kids party but now she is? I feel bad for the kid not her, she should know better than that. March is okay to not know any better, last week when the party took place not okay.
That’s a bold statement. Selfish because people want to live their lives? From 14 days to flatten the curve so hospitals wouldn’t be overwhelmed to 2020 being cancelled. I’m glad that you and many others haven’t been impacted by this in such a negative way, but what isn’t ok is the flagrant disregard for what other people are going through. Suicide, depression, abuse, addiction, death, birth, cancer, terminal illness etc. So that “vacation, fun and freedom” may mean more to many than you realize.
With that being said, your boss sounds awful. And no, you shouldn’t feel bad because she made the conscience decision to do what she wanted and shouldn’t complain about it.
Enthusiast
I honestly just ignore people like her and their self imposed pity parties. No, I’m not sorry that you are facing consequences for your actions. Hope it works out *shrugs*
Enthusiast
Exactly. I definitely don’t want her son to be COVID positive and I do hope her son is okay but I’m too lazy to even say it to her. Hope she learns the lesson about being a responsible citizen and parent. That’s all
Rising Star
I had the COVID, it was all right. Pooped a lot, felt miserable, watched a lot of TV. About the same as the flu.
Enthusiast
I’m glad you recovered well
https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2020/08/19/2006392117/F1.large.jpg
She needs to make sure does she and her family is not getting in contact with at risk population. As consultants, let's try to stick to the facts and acknowledge that the COVID 19 mortality rate for healthy and young population is not significant.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm#:~:text=The%20risk%20of%20complications%20for,both%20flu%20and%20COVID%2D19.&text=Young%20children%20are%20at%20higher%20risk%20of%20severe%20illness%20from%20flu.
I was a “covidiot” in a sense back in March. But all it took to convince me to see reality was the massive, unanimous facts that since came out from real experts (like Fauci, Osterholm, etc, not the idiotic Whitehouse). Maybe your manager was like me, and hopefully became convinced ultimately after March.
Enthusiast
This happened last weekend... so that’s not just about lacking information...
What are you hoping to accomplish by picking a fight? she’s worried her son may die and you want to say “I told you so”? To what end?
My advice is to just stay out of it if you can’t say something nice.
Okay. Similar question — what are you accomplishing by saying “I told you so”?
You’ve already won her over as a believer