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My students can't read an analog clock or write in cursive. Is it worth it to teach these basic skills to them?

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I agree firmly with the teacher from Tennessee. I'm from Arkansas. If we don't teach them, it is going to be like a foreign language. I am finishing my 27th year, in which 18 of them, I taught 7th and 8th grade math. I made my students show their work to get the grade. Students need to learn the basic skills on everything. I love technology; don't get me wrong. My fear is something drastic happens. We loose all of our electrical status as will as the technology. We won't be thrown back into a stone age, but I can see us living like early settlers. If we don't teach our youth to think for themselves, we are doomed as a society. I have been teaching Computer Lab these last years. If our babies are going to be tested on a computer; I think knowing how to use a computer becomes very important. Doing email and texting are great. A computer doesn't automatically put a space after any punctuation mark. The little ones need to know the keyboard placement. Teach them home row as early as you can. I have third graders using home row and typing 12 to 16 wpm. Some of my 5th and 6th graders are typing 40 wpm. As you see I have a position on both sides of this fence. I stand behind technology; but, we need to teach our students PRE-technology life skills. All levels of Math, Language, , what we now call the core .

I am a more veteran teacher. When I first started teaching I was all about cursive and analog clocks. I used to believe in 'lost knowledge'. The reality is we can't read Latin anymore. We can't start old crank style automobiles. So why should we learn these 'ancient' technologies. Sure, analog clock reading might be interesting in math, but it is not very useful in today's world. I do not have any analog clocks in my home or car. Cursive? Is the valued educational time we use on teaching this skill well worth it? It has been months since I used cursive. I can't read Old English or Latin documents. That is why we have specialists. Instead, let us work on teaching kids how to write (using computers) or how to do more math, or technology or how to run a country. Just sayin'.

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It absolutely is worth it!! Because if students dont learn to write cursive this generation will not be able to read cursive such as old documents, the constitution and anything else that has been written in cursive from the past. Also, why not teach students how to read an analog clock?? Knowledge is power. There are still analog clocks in the world, why handicap them by not teaching it?

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I know teachers that cannot read an analog clock nor write or read in cursive. I teach and encourage cursive in the classroom.

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My seniors in high school complain that they did not learn cursive because now they need to use it sign checks and papers for work and they do not know how to. They say it makes them feel less adult. Teach it

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That’s sad

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Yes! It’s amazing what basic skills kids lack. Just this week, I did a comprehensive unit on saying please and thank you.

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I once spent 2 days on knot tying as my middle school students mostly could not tie the square knot needed for the lab.

There have been many studies done (Harvard for one) that show learning cursive increases students academic performance because it crosses the midpoint of the brain. There is definitely many studies confirming the benefit of learning cursive. Here is one short article https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/04/30/should-schools-require-children-to-learn-cursive/the-benefits-of-cursive-go-beyond-writing

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ABSOLUTELY!!!!! Why isn’t this made known to those who think it is not needed!!!!

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Yes It Is. I have had students who lacked these skills, key word, had. We work on these skills and turn them into games such as making flash cards with clocks with no numbers. Writing letters to soldiers.....in cursive. We have received letters back...in cursive. This students love getting letters back and read them to their classmates. Making education is fun especially the " got it moments".

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Nope. Neither has rigor and neither helps a student achieve higher order thinking skills. Complete waste of time.

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Always worried about the rigor.

Absolutely teach them!! There are so many benefits both to brain development and eye hand as well as mindfulness!

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I had a writing prompt where students could propose any class they wanted that we don't already offer be added to our high school offerings. One of my kids proposed a cursive class.

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A teacher at my school once had an after school cursive club. It was actually a hit with the students.

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Yes. They need to be able to at least read cursive so they can read historical documents

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You can teach cursive when you are trying to fill in for extended time. There are students who would love to learn it instead if getting off track. As a Special Educator I often emply this trick if the trade.

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Yes and yes. Analog clocks are still used a lot of places (and sure, you could just look at your phone, but that isn’t always possible) and cursive (on top of many other arguments) is a very common element in design (e.g. invitations, flyers, etc.). Calligraphy is all the rage in graphic design and hand-lettering art too. Most kids I’ve encountered actually *want* to learn it. (And, for the record, I’m a millennial.)

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Maybe have “Signature Day” - they learn the only the cursive letters to write their own names... and once they can, they get to come up with a cool signature? ✍️😎

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You seriously think cursive skills will keep you from buying a house? Am I being punked on this thread?

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We shouldn't teach the calendar then.

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Does anyone remember practicing your autograph when you were young? You know, so when we became famous.... When famous people gave out autographs.

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If it is something you are passionate about there is no harm in teaching it. Our best lessons are the ones we put our passion into. Are they necessary skills? Obviously from this thread you can see that is debatable. Those skills have value. They might not have rigor or be standards based, but maybe that is just what your kids need.

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If you can't sign your name in cursive, you might not be able to buy a house. I think it's not necessarily a useful skill for daily life but still very important.

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We have intervention and enrichment time built into our school day. Some teachers have taught cursive for that enrichment, which I think is great. Otherwise, I don’t find the practicality in cursive. Clocks: yes. It’s just counting by fives, so yes. Perhaps a quick question every week or so, but not considerable time out of content.

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Cursive, absolutely. It requires less fine-motor skill than printing and is easier and faster to use. Watch kids take notes in cursive vs printing, for example, or write even a quick list. And because you’re faster and smoother, so is your thinking. Analog time? Meh. The kids seem to pick it up pretty quickly, but it is good math practice.

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Thanks for the correction. I guess I was trying to get across the idea that in printing, you have to start-stop-start-stop quickly in very tiny, controlled movements in a tiny area, while in cursive you do not have to do the start-stop so often and in such a small area. I did it poorly. 😬

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Actually cursive writing helps to develop fine motor skills, eye hand coordination and there have been research that it helps in brain development with thinking, language and memory. Also, in my opinion it’s an art like calligraphy.

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Analog clock helps with fractions. Cursive is a great way to develop fine motor control. ( your art teacher will thank you, the kids will draw better and you will get more impressive poster/projects)

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MOST DEFINITELY.! Cursive is just one form of graphics for letter writing. When you write, you can read! Analog is still here in existence, remember wristwatches? It’s a good quick tie in lesson to Counting by 5, fractions, location and many more skills! It’s not just WHAT YOU TEACH, ITS HOW YOU TEACH IT!

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