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Go for pwc. No one wants to join slytherin
Tim Ryan has refocused PwC on the big things that are important and less on the minutiae. It seems more like the old PW which is a good thing. Got rid of some layers so it’s flatter and partners have a little more clout vs market and regional admin. Technology is good. It comes down to the specific people you work for.
Switched from Deloitte to PwC last year. Pay is significantly better for me at PwC than was at Deloitte. I also enjoy the people I work with at PwC a lot better; this may just be luck but I’ve worked with 4 teams now over here. Have been a top performer at both firms and will say it’s been easier for me to succeed at PwC
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I think same pros and cons with D honestly. Make the move if the money is right or you’re moving into a more desired function/industry. But if the raise is minimal and you have a good brand here, stay. Just like D brand and network is paramount
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Really depends on the group, your network, and level. The higher up you come in, the harder to build your network in the group.
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Let me frame it this way: unless you’re getting pushed out of Deloitte, I’d stay where you are. PwC is mostly vaporware.
Lol what kind of vague comment is that? Vaporware? Like ... what do you mean? PwC is growing like crazy. #1 audit practice. Hugely growing consulting and advisory practice as well.
Went from Pdubs to Uncle D, Deloitte treats their top performers better and has better health insurance. PwC is equitable almost to its detriment. They’re 1A and 1B imo, but if you’re a type A who can hit incentive goals, Deloitte is the place to be
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Home growns don’t get paid at D, at least not at the lower levels. I was a top performer, had great scatter plots, reviews, and I left to EY for DOUBLE my D salary (and a promo to be fair) but even if I got that promo at D I wouldn’t be anywhere near to what EY gives me
I left D for PwC because of the culture. The pay is more at PWC too!
From colleagues I have spoke to, they are very similar. Some of the key differences as mentioned by others would be dependent on the team and area you are coming into alongside if the comp package is worth it to make the move.
If you want to be in audit pwc, may be a good fit. Otherwise pwc has nowhere near the growth opps as D outside of audit…… people who disagree do not understand the firms high level go to mkt strategy
I have worked for both - and honestly, the basic problems underlying the sh!tshow that public accounting has become are common to both firms. So, broadly not much difference. The real differences that will drive an overall success or failure are the specific office, the industry practice, the clients you work on, and the partners and team you work on.
If you are overall happy with your current type of work, clients, team, etc, think long and hard before you jump and ask yourself WHY you are moving. Over the long run, a few grand bump may not be worth it. When jumping firms, many people just don’t realize how much goodwill they have in their current office, and find it difficult at the new firm as they spent a lot of effort re-establishing their brand.
Alternatively, if you have a terrible partner, toxic environment, crap client, and little chance of advancement, no reason not to bail now. Again, only you can make that determination.
This is great advice. I wouldn’t leave d but I feel crazy for turning down 60k
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Hmmm I hate D and I wouldn’t do that. Up not down my friend