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Hey CW2, go fuck yourself. You're CW2 in here for a reason.
That is all. -Copywriter número 1
Shit. Meant to say CW2.
Fuckity McFuckface.
And this is Fishbowl. I think we all dial the professionalism down from time to time outside of the workplace, wouldn't you agree? Take yourself, for example. Surely you can't be this insufferable in your day to day?
Holy shit, juniors, settle down. And ffs, please use initial capital letters when starting a sentence. Have some respect for written communication and format, if you claim to be writers of anything whatsoever, social media isn't an excuse for poor or flat out incorrect writing.
OP, I love the idea of lower case junior art director 1. Ask account people to sit on client calls and meetings if really no work at all, to check out how those are going and how creative folks participate on those, but even if no creatives there, attend anyway to learn about the agency business and client interactions. In terms of small jobs no one wants to do, we gave an intern once the assignment of writing website menu item titles because the client wanted them to be a bit less cliche/standard, but still clear and short. He came up with two really good ones while the rest of us were too jaded to think of anything fresh. You'll have to hassle folks for work, no other real way around it. I'm sure someone will end up giving you something. Good luck!
Wow, where do I begin?
For starters, OP, the word "everyday" is an adjective, meaning "commonplace." You should use two words (every day), otherwise.
As for your issue with no work and no partner, you need to be proactive. Not everyone gets a partner (not even full-time employees), but there's always work. Volunteer to write some social-media posts, emails or anything else nobody else wants to do.
If you really are still just an intern, you're going to get the shit jobs. Just smile and do your work. But whatever it is they give you, try to do something great with it.
Once you're hired as a full-time Jr. Copywriter, you can whine a bit more. But if you have a bad attitude and act like your shit doesn't stink as an intern, you may find yourself bagging groceries in the future.
Finally, CW1, you shouldn't use an apostrophe to pluralise CD. Just type it like this: CDs.
That is all.
Thanks for catching my error, CW2. I was venting and didn't give this post the attention it deserved. Although your attitude and general vibe is off-putting, you're not completely wrong. Not sure where you come off with assumptions that I believe my "shit doesn't stick." Feels like you're just flexing your flippers for upvotes. I will take the small jobs with a smile. I've done it the be past and was always happy to cross things like "first banner" or "first radio" off the list. My current role feels like a step backwards and I sought input from the community during my moment of despair. Fortunately the rest of the community's feedback was more relevant than yours.
OH SHIT, CW1 OWNS A DICTIONARY
Oh lord cw2 get over it. Go have a walk outside and calm down. You're going to give yourself an ulcer.
you can teach grammar, you can't not being a dickhead
Come up with proactive ideas on the agency's accounts. Then when you have them, email them to CD's and put them on their desks. Worse comes to worse nothing happens.
wow CW2 with the attitude. at the end of your post, i was a little confused if you were finished. there were no more words, but you can never be too sure. thank god you said "that is all". now I know.
@OP, I was in your shoes when i had my last internship. I wanted a job, but my supervisors were always OOO and so there was no work coming through the pipeline for me to try & impress people with. but my intern partner and i realized that it wasn't that there was no work to be done -- the creatives just didn't know they had interns/what we can do/how we can help them. we ended up building a little one-page squarespace with an "intern button" that people could click to assign us work. then we made print ads for it and hung them around the office. ended up getting a ton of positive attention and was the reason i got hired.
i'm against coming up with spec ideas for clients and showing them to CDs -- you just don't know enough about the accounts, and CDs don't always have time.
there is ALWAYS shit for juniors and mids to pass off to interns. i suggest you put your energy into convincing them to do so.
Save the "pay your dues" and "millennial" speak. I've had experience in places where work was thin and I've successfully fought to find work i can contribute.
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It makes me sick when writers fixate on the writing and the writing alone. Sure, it's important, but I'd take a brilliant poorly written idea any day
Hey CW2, I don't actually give a flying fuck if you own a dictionary or not.
Remember: you're not curing cancer or writing the next great American novel. You're slaving over shitty copy that's largely overlooked for a garbage bag brand trying to appeal to millennials on Twitter.
Delete your account.
Yes, that was the purpose of that phrase, JAD1. You're not a writer, so I'll let every error you just made slide. Copywriters, on the other hand, should know better.
CW2 still hasn't learned the difference between being a copywriter and a copy editor. Sure, spelling and grammar are important things, but I know a ton of people who can ace those details and can't concept worth a damn. It's the same type of person who might derive enjoyment, for example, from spending the workday correcting typos on an anonymous app no one cares about.
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Sounds to me like you're living the dream.