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Yes, that’s how it works.
Partner: “get me an answer on xyz”
Manager: “will do”
Manager (doing what they are supposed to do, delegate): “senior, find me an answer “
Senior (doing what they are supposed to do, do): “will do”
Senior to Manager : “here is the answer “
(Manager reviews)
Manager to partner: “here is the answer “
(Partner reviews)
Partner to client: “here is the answer "
Maybe they could have used the word “we,” but they didn’t have to. The manager did come up with the answer by using his/her resources, which includes you.
The manager has now shielded you if the answer turns out to be wrong. Taking credit also means taking ownership for what could ultimately be a costly mistake.
Manager: “here is the research the Senior did”
Partner: “the fuck? Did you review?”
Manager: “I read it but the Senior came up with everything “
Partner: “well it’s wrong”
Manager “well it’s the Senior’s fault, he did the research “
Partner: “seriously?”
As long as the manager is giving you positive feedback when you do good work and tells the partner that you’re doing a great job and you are value add, you’re fine.
Sometimes its just about messaging. No one wants to say "I've not looked into but someone less qualified has!" Putting their name on it at least shows they trust you to get it right. I've had manager tell partner the research came from me, because I found an answer that was not what team had expected, not taking credit sounded like a disclaimer.
if you are cc'd suggests you were assisting somehow. Otherwise why are you on the chain? I don't cc staff for things they are not involved with. It's probably meant to be ambiguous
Don't judge off one email. Look for a pattern. the real bad managers will not cc you on anything. you'll usually be in the dark about status or the issue's backgroung.Then sometimes you will hear the partner or SM keep asking them about it and they can't answer, they will say they need to look into it, and they will come running to you! 😂
If I see pattern of being cut out of the communication I'll try cc'ing others when I send across my work. Either way, truth comes out eventually
The good managers know the more credit they push and blame they take the better it looks. It shows they are both being efficient and developing people. And the best ones do it all themselves and still say it was the team! 😂
I’m a manager and would never do that.
People who know BDO....
Always use the word “We”. I always point out who helped me with finding the answer. Also, sometimes you are reiterating things that the higher ups know. We need to use the word “we” a lot more in our industry in general. Almost everything is a team effort.
Manager should use “we” - don’t go crazy about it though - if you’re doing good work you’ll eventually get noticed
Realize that you are part of a team. Stop griping about who gets credit for what. Your value to your team will lead to promotion. When you get there, you can be better than your managers are now. We’ve all been there :)
This is about client relationships, and it’s not personal. You’re part of the game; so, let it be played
Dude , we are just cogs in the grinding machine, no biggie
Your job is to make the manager look good. If the manager is not a total a-hole this should be reflected in your rating
Wowzers... I type emails blindly in between the 1k tasks I have assigned to me that are due to executives yesterday. I apologize for every I that should have been a we...
With all the pressures in PA, it's a trip that we and I are dividing words that people actually focus on.