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I think you have it backwards. Do the secondment and if (big if - final round is far from guaranteed offer) you get the in house job at a salary you like, take the permanent in house job. The highest probability outcome here is that you don’t get the job, so plan as if that is how it will be (generally good advice for everyone not to make life decisions based on offers that haven’t come through yet). A secondment to a good company will make you more valuable for future in house spots if this one doesn’t work out. If you have to abandon the secondment early, it happens. Someone else will slide in and take your place in a week and everyone will forget about it.
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I like the positive outlook, but I gotta agree with A2, hope for the best - plan for the worst.
If you agree to the secondment, but get the in house offer fast you might be able to leave your current role before the secondment starts.
If you agree to the secondment, and you get an offer it will mostly likely takes a least another month or two before the approvals, salary negotiations and conflicts clear. Plus you can easily negotiate at least a 1-2months before starting.
Worst case scenario, you decline secondment, don’t get the in-house job, and are in an awkward spot at your current firm.
@triallawyer zaddy wya I need advice bb
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What’s a secondment?
You go in house sometimes full time sometimes part time and still get paid firm salary. This is full time.
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@TL boomer furiously googling.
Oh my.
When do you have to answer re secondment?
And when is the last round of interviews expected?
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Hah! Please let me us know how it goes. Rooting for you!
Definitely agree with A2
Agree with A2. I would also double check the interview timeline. It seems highly unlikely that you’ll get an offer right away after the final round.
If you do get an offer, it’s perfectly fine to graciously exit. People generally know that it takes a while to transition to in house and that offers can’t always be timed the way you want.
You have to use your own judgment, but it just seems unlikely that you’ll burn bridges here if you do things right. In my market, in house jobs are very competitive and you can’t always control the timing. I’ve seen people interview and then six months later get the offer. So people never leave at the perfect convenient time. But people leave firms/companies all that time. It’s expected. Given that, your employer/client may be by disappointed, but unless you’re doing mission critical tasks (which would be unusual for secondments), you’ll be replaceable and they’ll move on. Like I said, you’ll need to do it gracefully and try to give them plenty of time to replace you and maybe even help train your replacement. But if you’re a nice person who works hard, they’ll be happy for you/congratulate you and move on. If not, you probably didn’t want to ever work there again anyway.
The only time I’ve seen bad exits was when the associate left on the eve of trial or the closing of a deal, where the associate actually screws people over. It doesn’t sound like this is one of those instances.
Sort of related question - if you go on secondment, can you identify the company on your resume or is that a case-by-case determination?
I’m not sure but I can definitely bring it up in conversations and it would only improve my long-term interviewing capability. But that means giving up this current amazing job opportunity
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How did the call with HR go, OP?