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People are saying it’s rare to get covid if you’re vaccinated (most recently 1 in 1000 breakthrough cases for MA) but isn’t that directly attributable to far less testing done now? I can understand it’s rare to be at risk for hospitalization, but do we really know how many people are asymptomatic and still spreading?

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When we were correlating cases to testing it was speaking to the fact that we didn’t have enough tests to run and lines were crazy long. Now it’s easy to get a test. I think anytime a vaccinated person is feeling sick with covid specific symptoms, terrible cough, can’t move for a few days they’ll go and get a test. It’s seems logical that if they were responsible enough to get vaccinated they would be responsible enough to get a test.

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This is a good point. Testing is going down because symptoms are down, not because vaccinated people are ignoring symptoms.

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I was one of the "rare" breakthrough cases 2 months after being fully vaccinated / with a relatively strong mid 20s immune system. I had been super careful throughout the last 15 months, but had a birthday dinner with 10 friends after NY had "opened" and was infected, while everyone else I was with tested negative (thankfully). 3 weeks later and I'm still exhausted / having random symptoms :(

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No we do not but we also don’t know how many of the cases were truly Covid since everything was marked as Covid (plenty of states have been caught doing that). I will say this is going to be around for the foreseeable future and it will mutate so it will be the same as the flu, they will try to pick the strain they think will be the most prominent for the year, create a vaccine for that strain and then people will need to get vaccinated again.

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There's a difference between covid cases and covid deaths. With covid cases, the states can't just do whatever they want. Would assume current case data is fairly accurate.

So much misinformation and speculation in this thread. Here is what I have seen directly from reviewing several vaccine studies: most measure efficacy based on the ratio of the infection rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated arms of the study. Some measure infection based on testing only those who were symptomatic, and others measure it by testing everyone. The results are similar (90%+ efficacy for Pfizer and Moderna) either way - which indicates the vaccine is mostly preventing you from getting infected in the first place, not just preventing symptoms. If you don’t get infected, then you can’t transmit the virus.

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A1 we don’t know. So far, so good in the sense that they have not shown much drop-off in efficacy within the horizon that is observable so far. This also means it’s pretty clearly at least 6+ months, but we don’t know if it’s 9 months, 2 years or lifetime at this point.

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Consider the fact that you are participating in a cult.

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How so?

Also variants keep emerging and it takes time to study each one, but all the studies I’ve heard of indicate vaccines still provide protection against them, though some may have lower efficacy.

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Less testing?? Surely this deep into the pandemic, tests are widely available. Here in the U.K. they also do random community testing to get stats on the spread, symptomatic or not.

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Less testing meaning people aren’t going to get tested. I’m vaccinated and if I wake up with a headache I’m going to pop an Advil, not get a Covid test.

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Schools and camps and such are still testing. As is anyone I know who’s traveling as a “just in case” or bc it’s required.

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Risk Management =/= Risk Avoidance.

Seriously? It’s called calculated risk. Lightning and sharks are fatal too but I bet you go outside and swim in the ocean. 🙄

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The initial study released by cdc states that vaccinated people can’t transmit to others. This is along the lines of global studies preliminary results, that are undergoing. The hypothesis is that unvaccinated people transmit the virus (potentially to both vaccinated and unvaccinated)

That's a legal thing. They don't want to get sued when someone who wears a mask gets it. That said, the whole point of the mask is to make it harder to GIVE it to other people. Even though they're not perfect, the masks will grab some (not all, unless you're wearing a properly fit-tested n95) of the virus coming out of your breath. The less that gets by the mask the less likely that someone else will pick it up

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