People Bitch about big 4, but imagine working the same hours as at a no name firm, ugggh

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Same exit ops, less hours, better pay

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That's why I never understood the people at RSM, CohnReznick, Grant Thornton, bdo, etc. same job for less perks

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Why I went PwC. If I'm going to stick it out in this shitty job, might as well get the most recognition.

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I don't think the job is that shitty. At least we're not janitors or work on septic tanks.

I don't find much meaning in audit, but I'm learning a good deal

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BDO 1 - better pay? idk about that. Combine benefits that Big 4 get that we don't and it adds up quiiiiiiiick.

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I think the "same hours" part is a myth perpetuated by the big 4.

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LOL, paid phone and student loans? Those are the "perks" that put B4 ahead of mid-tier? That's laughable. First off, many mid tier firms pay for your phone bill. Second, the student loan discounts are a joke and can hardly be called a discount. They are essentially just market rate.
This is what I don't get about my fellow B4 peeps. We talk like we're better, when in reality we're not. And trust me, we definitely don't live the higher life over mid-tier folks.

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Count the same beans anywhere

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Oh the horror.

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My perks are better, the pay is better, and the hours are far fewer.

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Off the top of my head, I was offered 7k more than the big4 starting in the same city. Obviously cell phone reimbursements/health club reimbursements. We have overnight bonuses every quarter. Averaging about 1k extra a quarter, plus everyone is paid out the annual bonuses, down to first year staff. Heavy travellers get free travel quarterly on the firm, reimbursements up to $500 for a high fee CC or airline club, reimbursement on fitness classes while on the road. We get to use our own credit cards, so we basically never have to pay for vacations with all the extra points that grabs. 401k - 50% match on 5%, plus age based contributions regardless of if you contribute anything at all.

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@EY2 be grateful your have a job. You must be fun to work with. Trust me if you had five years at a mid-tier firm and 2 years at a big four, in the interview they are more than likely to care about your big four experience period the end.

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Does the grass is always greener or the juice must be strong apply more here?

I heard expectations for seniors is a little unfair if i were to switch. Northeast isn't looking for experienced hires (id take a demotion and paycut just to learn the ropes)
Being thrown into the wolves at this level when going Mid-Tier-B4 just seems way to risky

those people probably couldn't get a job at big 4.

Many people in B4 have similar mindsets. That's partly why they don't understand people in mid-tier firms, because those people don't share the same mindset. Not everyone wants to follow the same career path. I've worked in two different offices with different clienteles and I enjoyed working with middle market clients MUCH more than with public companies. A lot less red tape and easier to actually enjoy the job.

And when I say two offices, I also mean to different firms, and AM1 (above) is correct. The stress levels aren't even close to similar. In a way I feel bad for B4 people that think this is the best their life can offer them.

Paid phone, and student loans to name a few benefits .

@aa1 its accounting, not law. Anyone with half a brain can go to any firm they want

I'm not saying people cant choose what firm they go to. I'm saying I don't understand the appeal of mid tier. I guess I don't know what your point is...

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