People who have move from Accenture to Deloitte at M level, how was the experience?

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From what I’ve heard: The pay is way better, the people aren’t as great, the work is the same.

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Been at both. ACN people were not nearly as bright and interesting as the people I met at Deloitte. If you’re getting poached one will pay more than the other but that’s all relative. It’s similar work tho I would say Deloitte had more interesting work overall, but if you’re in ACN strategy you should be fine.

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AM1 I think I am in the same practice or at lease similar. Your post is very familiar.

Leadership talks a good game about setting boundaries and having at work life balance but they don’t practice at at all.

When I’m not online I get a text message. On a cell phone that I pay for.

During the layoffs last year leadership specifically said that they couldn’t save anyone “it was out of their hands.” I keep hearing the same when I ask about promotions. Like why am I working for you if you have no clout?!?

I’m not allowed to roll off and pursue projects that I’m more excited about and align with what I want from my career but I’m fed the line that “your career is what you make of it!”

I’ve been at Orals where we give our resource plan, including names, knowing full well those people are staffed elsewhere and we do not have any kind of bench. Then we throw in new hires to lead these projects. New hires that we offer more money and higher levels to than our existing resources. Then we turn around to our existing resources and say we can’t promote them or give them raises. It’s incredibly toxic.

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i’ve worked at accenture almost a year now and definitely don’t like it.

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Its exactly the same if you turn the table around.

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I earn more at Deloitte, a lot more vs Accenture

However, Deloitte is tribal af even at the M/SM levels

You don’t really see tribalism at Accenture below MD - but it’s very visible here.

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An opposing data point... my practice area within Accenture was incredibly tribal, from top to bottom. If you were well-liked, you were promoted... regardless of performance. I worked with another manager on a few different projects, and several of us on the team had serious concerns about his demonstrated performance (given his level), ability to deliver quality, subject matter expertise, client interactions, and a few other things... but, he was friends with one of the practice leads and was promoted to SM, with no demonstration of even being able to perform as an M, let alone an SM.

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In D, there is lot of fiefdom around college/school. If you are not part of any important fiefdom you will get bottom of barrel client and staff and eventually labeled as not fit to be forced out one way or other.

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Shocked at your experience AM1. Sorry to hear it was that bad! I can count on one had the number of weekends I’ve had to work (more than the Sunday night emails).

Like any large org, I think your experience will largely depend on the group you work with. I know some coworker who have to burn the midnight oil, but for the most part they enjoy a “normal” work/life balance

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That’s not even the worst of it. I left out a lot of my experience, because the community in my practice area (while growing larger) is still small and tight knit, and I did not want to say anything that could further identify me to those people in leadership positions at Accenture that have far reaching networks. I told the HR rep that did my exit interview the worst of it, and the look on their face as I described my experience was one of shock and concern.

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Agree with A1 and SM1. Not discounting your experience at all AM1, because if I had similar I’d feel the same. Accenture isn’t perfect, however, I’ve had a great experience overall so far.

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I hear things are a little better on the strategy side of the org. I was not in strategy.

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How is Deloitte comp so much better than ACN?

Maybe a data point can help- what would a Deloitte S&A manager salary be in a T2 city?

AM1 - this is deceptively put. ACN has a 6% match and after a year they match every pay check. You vest at 2 years. D has a 1.5% match paid in 1 lump sum in June. You vest 20% in yr 1, 40% yr 2, 80% yr 3 and 100% yr 4. So after 1 year here you get all of 0.3% and through 2 years 0.6%. Other B4 firms are similar and its intentional. They are sweatshops for accountants and if you manage to last 3+ years you get a decent retirement benefit. A lot of ppl dont last 3 yrs...

That said, Deloitte is more cash heavy. Higher base salaries, higher bonus targets. If you stay around then retirement can be good bc of the pension but that takes 3yrs to vest. Our insurance is also surprisingly weak but we do have more PTO (and harder to use).

Like all jobs focus on base pay. Bonus and benefits are extra and firms often change the terms of those while you are there. But its really hard for a firm to cut your base pay.

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My experience at Accenture has been great 🤷‍♂️

Based on the feedback it’s a mixed bag OP. Which practice are going to? Is it fed or commercial bc that also changes things.

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