{ "media_type": "text", "post_content": "Pissed off a managing partner, what to do? Here is what happened:\n- talked about a way forward, agreed on next steps (not clearly enough)\n- I did the wrong next steps given we had apparently different understandings (realised it afterwards; no severe risks resulted)\n- now he accuses me that I purposely misunderstood him and that I acted this way to gain personal benefits of it (wtf)\n- doesnt believe me that it was due to failed alignmemt - insists that I am lying \n\nHow to deal with that?", "post_id": "6108443078872c0020471916", "reply_count": 68, "vote_count": 14, "bowl_id": "552d1d24dc1c586b09d2d051", "bowl_name": "Consulting" }

Pissed off a managing partner, what to do? Here is what happened: - talked about a way forward, agreed on next steps (not clearly enough) - I did the wrong next steps given we had apparently different understandings (realised it afterwards; no severe risks resulted) - now he accuses me that I purposely misunderstood him and that I acted this way to gain personal benefits of it (wtf) - doesnt believe me that it was due to failed alignmemt - insists that I am lying How to deal with that?

likefunny
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at
Highlighted IconHIGHLIGHTED

Something similar happened to a co-worker of mine. I think it's better though after they talked it out and I think we explained to my managing director he's acting a little selfish. It did take a year to get in a good space though.

like

Sounds like the person is just insecure and looking to pawn off some of that insecurity to a Senior. Seniors (and everyone for that matter) are expected to make mistakes from time to time. It’s OK. Sounds like you just need to clear the air with this person, but then distance yourself from them going forward.

likehelpful
Recent IconRecent

You're done. Off to KPMG you go...

likefunnysmarthelpful

Then he is definitely gonna get banished to one of the WITCHes.

funnysmart

Still wrapping my head around the 'personal benefits' comment..

likefunny

Jesus, the MD sounds like a nut job

like

The fact that a Managing Partner has a direct line with a Senior Consultant to coordinate the next steps on a project is just mind boggling. A M/SM at a minimum should be sitting in between the two of you, the fact that there isn’t raises a huge quality and risk red flag, the Partner should know better.

likehelpful

Yeah EY1 - I don’t know where that’s coming from. I have been at both Acn and BCG and there were very open reporting lines from MD/P to senior analyst / associates on a routine basis. I question how much management bloat there is that EVERYTHING requires another person in the middle.

likeupliftingsmartfunny

Dude sounds cray. Find another leader to follow.

likehelpful

Find an advocate whom he trusts to speak on your behalf. You might be done though.

likefunnyhelpful

Well, time to apply for a job at the client and get the partner off the account.

likefunny

This made me lol, go OP

Post Photo
funnylike

Don’t show up to work and start living off the land somewhere in the wilderness from this day forward. Don’t waste time with a resignation letter.

likefunny

LOL

Give them personal benefits and find new job

like

Hahahaha I had this happen to me. You’re both in the wrong: - Communication failure - You went way above your head - They overreacted Sorry to say but this MP will be very hard on you when it comes to round table discussions.

like

D1, I am speaking from instances where the partner was hellbent on pulling the candidate down (seemed a personal grudge).

like

Sounds like an undesirable person to work for IMO

like

A month/year from now this won’t even matter. Tell him, ‘Daddy chill.’

funnylike

I heard this one in my head and it was fantastic.

File a defamation suit

likefunny

Why do I feel like you’re at IBM? Lol. I was in a very similar situation many years ago. Sincere advice - jump ship. This guy or gal seems to have an insane ego and will likely make your life miserable at the firm (no matter how large or a firm it is…a managing partner holds a lot of sway). So yes, update the resume and start looking elsewhere or join a totally different practice where he/she won’t have any influence over your career progression. Another option is to speak with someone fairly senior as well (Partner etc.) and explain the situation and get their take on how to manage the situation. It’s important to build a strong ally base wherever you are.

like

If this occurred super recently, try to pick them up for a 1:1 ASAP. Do so to LISTEN and get their POV / feedback. This was about 100% about them / their triggers or past trauma that they need to work through, and not about you (be it, ego, fear, guilt, trust, jealousy, feeling ineffective, undermined / slighted, not made a partner, frustration for repeatedly being misunderstood, lack of job security, cultural, etc — or just a bad day / other personal, etc struggles…). That doesn’t make it okay, but we’re all human. How you handle it from here, will speak volumes of you / your potential there. Bring the calm, not more crazy. Ask what you can do now / next / in the future to recalibrate in a way that feels good for both of you. Actively listen, and send a follow up thanking them for their time, understanding, openness / transparency with you, and reiterating the next steps they identified to prove the misalignment b/t you isn’t pervasive. Ultimately allowing them to feel heard, respected, confident “you understand” and to find closure w/ the breakdown and that it won’t repeat again is what it’s about, not helping them see / agree with your side / actions. If you do feel a need to clarify anything they share, tread lightly and keep it to facts / no ppl involved - he/she saids will likely exasperate. Usually if you nip it early with empathy and professional courtesy and keep it b/t you 2 — the drama will dissipate and it will hopefully die there vs travel on to others / with you and your career…

like

EY 3 — they both could have that POV. We don’t know the facts of the misalignment. Also another EY thread above says, that many review levels is not std across the board, and that’s not really relevant, as the fact of the matter is there wasn’t. So how should OP proceed without? You would pull everyone in your chain of commend?! — that sounds like a way to make sure it becomes a big ordeal, and a bigger lack of EQ + waste of everyone’s time, without at least 1 attempt to work it out b/t the ppl actually involved.

Sounds like they have some kind of social/professional insecurity. Bounce

like

I had something similar happen with a MP, they over reacted afterwards telling everyone when they we half at fault themselves. I tactfully refused to work with them again after. Made MP a couple years later with no issues.

like

I hate the leaders who take things personal, dude, it’s all about the business, no one tries to go against you or unaligned with you on purpose, what could we possibly get from doing so?

like

Do you have a performance manager? Talk to them, get the situation straight. They’re going to be involved if the Partner is actually upset about it.

like

This is your version of the story through. You could have said something slick

likehelpful

You've got to get out of that situation. Do you have any other same-level peers of this individual that would be willing to help soothe things. Helps aligning yourself and at a minimum getting internal perspective.

like

Related Posts

Deloitters; is pension vesting tracked by your start date or a certain time of year? And is an all or nothing vest? I might be leavening barely a month from my 3 year vesting mark.

like

Can anyone comment on why Deloitte's 401k match is so very pitiful?

like

Does anyone have any insight working for Appian (Pay, WLB, Benefits)? Specifically the Technology Strategy Analyst role? Looking for strategy roles outside of consulting.

like

How much can I expect to take home on 105k in NYC after health insurances + maxing 401k?  I'm calculating about $2,100 biweekly (26 periods)  $4,038 gross -$1,076 state/federal taxes + medicare etc -$787   401k  -$75    health insurances (HDHP, vision, dental) $2,100 estimated biweekly takehome

like

For people who have changed companies what is the best company to move your 401k, I am thinking of Vanguard are there any other better options

like

Any reason start a brokerage account before I max out 401k and Roth?

like

We get ~$45/day per diem when traveling. Is that low, high, or average?

like

Two Sigma does Two Sigma offer tuition reimbursement? How's PTO there?

like

Anyone exited to contract consulting? Thoughts on availability of work, hourly rate increases, longterm network building? Trying to decide if the wlb would be worth leaving, as I have health insurance through spouse.

like

Hi, I would like to know about Accenture Health insurance benefits for employee. Can we claim outpatient medical bill?? Any other benefits in Accenture?

like

Anyone working with ITSS, do let me know about the company and benefits given to employee?@ITSS

like

Hi I just got my associates in Healthcare Mgmt. I have no prior work history in this industry, but I do have customer service skills from working at the post office for 14 years. I just wanted a change in career. I need some advice on how to land a job in the Healthcare field when I don’t have that hands on hands experience, but I do have the educational background. Also I would like to work while I pursue my Bachelors degree. Please help!!

like

Any chance of Deloitte upping the fitness reimbursement to $1k to follow KPMG and now EY’s lead?

likefunny

Does anybody know what are the maternity benefits and policy at Accenture? How many weeks of paid parental leave and how many months you have to be with the firm to have access to those benefits? Thanks

like

What is your opinion on GARP financial Risk Manager (FRM) certificate? I am considering taking it (as I am FS Risk Consulting), but I am not sure if it really carries benefits. Apparently it is quite a tough study. Is it worth the time or should I invest my time elsewhere? Also do you have learning material you are willing to share :D?

like

401K Question - Very Confused. Just came to US and will be here for about 4 Years. Firm matches 25% of first 6% employee down. Some say, upon withdrawal, have to 40% tax/penalty / others say .. Contin

like

What are the benefits of American Express platinum versus all the other American Express cards? Do you get any additional benefit for that 700 a year in membership dues?

like

How is everyone handling the closure of Roth conversions and Mega Backdoor Roth IRA? Does this render After tax 401k useless?

like

What % of your 401K contribution does your employer match? Trying to get some benchmarking ideas, thanks

like

Super random but anyone have any firm benefits or discount codes at home Depot? I heard someone say they had discounts at target and Lowe's before so just checking.

like

Additional Posts

I’m 11 wks pregnant and started this new project right as I got pregnant- it’s been such a tough project and I’m not able to keep up. I’m not sure what to do - I’ve totally fallen behind and am not sure how I’m going to be able to proceed. I need something slower paced. Do I tell them I’m pregnant or do I just keep trying to do my best. 😞

like

How long do recruiters wait to submit candidates for in-house roles? I recently had a positive conversation with a recruiter for a very newly posted role. I sent my resume and the recruiter said he would be in touch, but I’m not clear if my resume was submitted or if he’s waiting to find other potential candidates as well. How long should I wait to follow up after I sent my resume? TIA

like

Partners I am literally begging you to buy a laptop or actual computer. We've been in pandemic mode for almost 2 years, "I'm working off of an iPad" was a silly excuse for not being able to see formatting, comments and footnotes back in April 2020, but it's patently absurd now. Please. I'll even pay for it!

likefunny

Currently in ECM at an RBC/UBS/WF and have an offer to join a T2 Consulting firm's strongest group as an Associate (think LEK/OW/ATK). Non-target undergrad and no MBA (although may ultimately want to get one), and this would be a ~20% base salary decrease. Looking for more varied strategic/operational experience and to develop a broader skillset as ECM has gotten repetitive and the exit opportunities are limited. No wife/kids/mortgage etc. so don’t mind travel. Thoughts?

like

What is the most interesting case you have had in the past few weeks? Either COVID related or non-covid related.

like

Are there any jobs that are fully remote/allow for ease of living anywhere?

like

Hi IBM fishes I will be joining IBM with a package of 14 LPA including pf and gratuity. How much can I expect in hand salary monthly ?

Just start seeing a girl consistently, then get put on a travel project.... Welp 😒

like

Legit question: now that 90% of you all don’t have an expense account or travel, why are you doing consulting? Wlb and pay are shit, professional dev opps are good but can be developed in 2-3 years - so why not leave after

like
like

Any NYC FDD that can refer me? I'm looking for a senior position. Have prior experience at EY and am an active CPA. Like

like

Best methods to study for AWS Cloud Practitioner Certification. Only have about a week so want to make sure I am studying the right materials and right way to pass

like

What is the salary range for a Senior Associate in PwC’s valuation practice? Does it range by group (financial modeling v. Core valuation)?

like

Had an international flight on Alaskan booked next month using chase ultimate rewards points. Alaskan canceled the flight and gave me airline credit but shouldn’t I get my chase points back instead?

like

Looking to move to Boston: Arnold, Mullen, Hill Holiday... Where should I look, and where should I avoid like the plague?

like

I have a work experience of 3 years 1st year as software engineer in Capgemini Then did mba Then 2 years at wipro as Functional consultant Now i am plaaning to switch I also have frm level 1 certification How much hike can i ask in my new company?

like

Wells Fargo senior software salary range for 11 YOE ERP ?

like

Flying out of JFK is perhaps the worst way to start a Monday morning.

like

QUESTION -When you have a great passion project / bottom drawer idea that you keep bringing out and trying to bring back to life - ie you’ve had it in a couple of agencies - who owns it? It wasn’t for a brief, and it was worked on above and beyond the general hours of work. And it’s never been bought.

like

I am am Asian woman. I started a discussion about how we could improve our diversity and inclusion efforts on my UX team. I offered a possible solution. Out of a team of 14, only 4 responded, 2 female in support, 2 male with lukewarm and hostile responses. The silence is deafening from the rest of the team (all male). I don't want to be here anymore. I attribute this to being in Utah, majority white. Is it like this everywhere? Or if I change jobs, will it be better?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
Download Fishbowl to see what others are saying
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the Fishbowl app

Get realtime notifications and see
what's happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal