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Please help me decide - which do you think is the best exit opportunity from consulting? Salesforce: Senior Change Manager - Base $170k, RSU 65k. I would need to relocate to Dallas, no relocation assistance and no sign on bonus Microsoft: Customer Success Manager - Base $165k, RSU 75k, sign on bonus 30k. The position is local - Washington, DC so no relocation required I am currently an SC in Human Capital - Change Management. YOE 7 years current base $153k

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Easy decision. Microsoft

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But I would get them to match the other salary. Every dollar matters when it’s recurring.

I just joined Salesforce from Deloitte, human centered change manager, absolutely love it

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I have not been at either company but I would go with microsoft

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If you’re already in DC (sounds like you are) and enjoy it, Microsoft. That way if you hate the job, you’re still around people/things you enjoy. I get Dallas has a lower COL but when you factor in that you might not like (unless you have ties or lived there before) and the risk everyone faces that s/he might not like the new job, I say those intrinsic factors aren’t worth it

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I guess do you want to do change mgmt or customer success?

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First of all, congratulations! These are two awesome offers with highly desirable companies. From a comp perspective I would personally go with Salesforce. The TCs on paper are pretty close but COL is much lower in Dallas. You’ll have to decide if you want to move to Texas given the current energy grid issues. Also, of course, it’s up to you if you want to leave someplace where you’re theoretically settled, etc. However, I wouldn’t move without trying to negotiate. Have you tried negotiating with Salesforce for a relo and signing bonus? You definitely have leverage.

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Have heard anecdotally that salesforce will negotiate initial RSU award, but 65k is already pretty solid so not sure how much headroom there might be

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If you could start work next week, barring all other thoughts/ analysis/ etc, which office would you rather walk into?

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Personally I don’t want to go customer success. My background is org change so that’s the oppty I would lean toward. I know that MSFT let’s people move around a lot though so your initial job doesn’t have to last for more than 12 months. I might choose MSFT but CS is babysitting enterprise accts helping them troubleshoot & connecting them with the right MSFT folks —- that is a pass. Maybe tell SFDC that you have a competing offer. All my friends who work there are remote. Maybe they’ll find some flexibility for you.

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Microsoft- but compare COLA between Dallas and DC. CNN Money has a decent one to compare cities and I think Nerd Wallet has a good one.

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Microsoft CSM is a great role

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Dallas is like 30% cheaper col

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I’ve heard nothing but great things about Salesforce and mixed things about MS. A friend that works for Google told me that out of all the tech companies, Salesforce has the best culture reputation. Might be something worth considering . And remember, Dallas is cheaper than DC so factor that into your salary ( including no income tax).

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I like the salesforce brand but no sign on bonus or relocation is a bad sign. Id say Microsoft

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You really can’t go wrong with either. It’s really a question of do you want to move to Dallas or stay in DC. I’m from DC too so I would go with Microsoft if I were in your shoes. $165k is definitely enough here

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Between those 2, Microsoft. Would you be willing to chat via DM? I’m targeting similar exits and am struggling to get interviews.

Sure thing happy to!

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If you want to build specialization in CRM and CM, then Salesforce

Is the Salesforce position the human centered change position?

The roles sound different. I’d consider talking to the people in those exact roles to understand what exactly they do on a daily basis

Are those numbers 1st year RSUs only or total?

Salesforce seems like much more 170 in Dallas goes sooo much further than 165 in DC. Dc is right below SF and NYC for cost

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