Possible opportunity at BCG Gamma - how is it viewed by

1 BCG generalist consultants?
2 By competitors (e.g. Mckinsey Advanced Analytics and Oliver Wyman Labs)?

And what's the typical career path?

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1. Awesome. Very respected for unique capabilities.
2. It’s way superior offering and much better win rates. But Does it matter?

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@Slalom1 people with both consulting and engineering experience are relatively rare and tend to do well on our teams. Ideally they have data science experience, but data engineering is critical for most of our work. BI, not so much. Useful but peripheral; used frequently and most on our team is comfortable with the standard toolkit. Either way you'd be writing a fair bit of code until more senior levels (and maybe still then, if it's how you work).

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Involved heavily with OW Labs. I can’t speak about how we are as an organization relative to GAMMA, as I’m not familiar with GAMMA. What I can say is this:

1) OW Labs is very much a revenue-driving consulting group, not a supporting group. Well respected across the firm

2) OW Labs is increasingly becoming embedded as a core part of how we offer consulting services as a firm

3) Talent is world-class

I’m confident in our ability to compete and deliver.

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Love it OW. I am a QuantumBlack AP myself and love the fact that all the firms are now competing with world class talent.

Cool, thanks for all the insightful replies everyone, especially for the detailed views from @BCG2

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1) We try to have a symbiotic relationship. They get us huge projects, we make sure that their cool models have actual value by putting a business perspective on it and building processes around it for the client.

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This has been asked many times and I get different answers... But how does BCG gamma salary compare to regular BCG?

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I feel like my answer is different...people have very mixed opinions of Gamma, there are some teams where they deliver amazing value and some where they are a total waste of money. There is often a lot of friction when they do work side by side with a generalist team because work styles are not very compatible. I avoid cases with any Gamma managers involved- if there’s one A/C level Gamma person plugged into their own data driven module I don’t mind though

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@Associate 1 - we have almost exactly the same career steps (just no Associate equivalent, rather Senior Associate), the same pay, and a path to Partner. Folks are a bit more tenured, as you point out, though.

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OP - Inconsistency in views perhaps because our team is new, growing super fast, and changing our comp/working model along the way; no illusions that we got it right out of the gates

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Appreciate the insight on the culture BCG2

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BCG2, really helpful. I assume this is all still the normal office-centric BCG model though?

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@Manager1 gamma operates as a global system with its own recruiting, staffing, and career development process, but we are part of local offices for all other aspects

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Value and talent are great. Joint work style still takes effort.

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Well I'm jealous. Hit that.

It’s kind of hard to compare. The career steps are different and GAMMA people typically have at least a couple of years of prior experience. Taking that into consideration it is probably significantly less, but otherwise I think it’s quite similar.

BCG2 - time out, why do we keep getting conflicting info that salary and career path are way different between Gamma and BCG? So odd if what you’re saying is accurate

@BGG2 @Accenture1 Could it be different by location? It's interesting that views of BCG gamma are so different, especially when what I've heard on Mck advanced analytics and OW Labs are so consistent.

@bcg1 Thanks for your reply and sorry for the ambiguity in the original question. To clarify, I'm keen to hear both the thoughts of BCG folks and competitors of Gamma to get a sense of their reputation in the industry.

Multiple roles in gamma. Gamma consulting and X teams (client facing, latter are platform and data engineering) are paid the same as consultants in their local offices.

Gamma also has some non-client-facing roles that are paid less and are intended to have more sustainable hours; more analytical support roles or very specialized analysis

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