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Agree, it shouldn't take men having a daughter to realize that women deserve equal opportunities, not to be harassed, etc.

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Agreed. Men should care about women as human beings, not just as “their” family members. I understand seeing things differently once they get the perspective of women in their lives, but that is different from the “as a father of a daughter” bs line. Plus plenty of husbands and fathers are still terrible.

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I can’t access this post but I don’t know why it’s hard to understand that having a daughter does not excuse you from misogyny. You can be a girl dad and still espouse misogynistic views! And the fact that you have a daughter does not make it any less problematic - in fact it may be more problematic!

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I get it, but at the same time, it’s fundamentally human to try to relate to other groups you don’t identify with through the relationships you already have. I don’t really understand how it’s productive to chastise people for trying to access and build empathy based on their local experiences/community and to try to bully them into “our side” by yelling at them that they aren’t already perfect.

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I always swap the genders in a scenario and think about how society would react. What do you think the reaction would be if women said having sons taught them to value and respect men? Do you think it would be the same reaction as men saying this about women?

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Should you want to go contribute - and discard the mansplaining. Please do.

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All men have mothers, however the reference to having daughters - younger women - also infuriates me with age bias. All women - including older women - matter.

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