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PwC or Deloitte? Honest question

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I recently got my start date solidified with Deloitte GPS for late January. I’m looking forward to not being a sub-k or teaming partner on a federal contract. I will be coming on as an SAP Senior Implementation Analyst. Any suggestions for those that are on the Product Delivery Model (PDM) vs Consulting (Federal) side?

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Depends on what you are looking for at this point of your career. Consulting is better option if you are looking for faster growth. PDM has limited expectations and hence slow growth.

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This is a very subjective topic and changes substantially by office and service line... not sure how anyone could say one or the other as it is a massive generalization based on anecdotal experience. PwC

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Deloitte, but pwc is a great firm and Strategy& is definitely a great competitor to S&A, probably better in most cases.

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PwC is a dumpster fire of arrogance, nonexistent morals/ethics and some of the worst examples of humans I’ve run across in consulting. Makes House of Lies look like Little House on the Prairie.

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Agree with P5, but I think it depends on which fiefdom you belong to.

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Was on client side a few years ago and liked PwC more than D. People from PwC I worked with were more approachable, capable, professional, and humble than the people from D to whom I was exposed.

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P3, agree with this 100%! The problem is the tone from the leadership and i know so many at the firm feel this way

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Pwc is turning into what deloitte was about 10 yrs ago Cant speak to what D is like now, but culture at P-dubs is trending downward

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I agree 100%!

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Worked at both. The two firms are so big that your experience will be colored by the people rather than the actual firm. I hated my time at PwC. I worked with some truly terrible people there and the assholes seemed to advance up the ladder. With D it has been infinitely better. That is not to say that the firm doesn’t have assholes but I haven’t worked with any so far and maintain a distance from the known ones

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UPDATE - I ran into a friend last night who quit PwC (my former group) for a competitor. He took a step down but couldn’t deal with the sweat shop mentality at PwC anymore.

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Agree PwC is in a downward spiral- suggest staying away from any of the big four and have more fun and work life balance at a boutique firm

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Any examples? I’m interested 🤔

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Deloitte. and no bias, I've worked at PwC too and frankly miss a lot of people there. But D has a much better culture

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It varies so much between offices and countries it's impossible to say. Deloitte tends to have more aggressive culture. PwC less cut throat. But it varies.

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I’ve noticed the younger folks at Deloitte are much more collaborative than the elder ones

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If you’re techy Accenture. If you’re somewhat techy but want strategy, M&A, etc - Deloitte

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Accenture 🤣

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People I know who worked at PwC very never happy with the leadership. Deloitte’s leadership are still better than others.

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Trust me D1, it isn’t the same. There are multiple threads in the PwC bowl right now that are really, really negative on the Firm

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Worked at both. I prefer PwC, work life balance is better for me, pay is better, flexibility to try new positions too.

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