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Question: would you rather 1) work in a toxic unit where you get all the recognition and can get paid OT or 2) get a fix salary but work with great people ?

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I think it depends on where you are in your career. I personally prefer the piece of mind and work with great people. Generally, if you have a good team, over time is limited. Also, I end up learning more. I try to never be the smartest person in the room, you don’t learn new stuff and you stagnate. My answer would probably change depending on the delta in salaries, say a 30-40% increase may sway me to do the former for a short time and then jump ship.

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I actually had this choice and I chose 2... i lasted 2 years at 1

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I’ve been in 1 for 4 years now. I hate it. Don’t get me wrong, I like money, and I always work OT when needed/it’s available. But I’m under stimulated in my job now because of it. It makes it seem more like a chore that I don’t want to do (like dishes or folding laundry) than work that I used to enjoy. Starting B4 next month and I’m hoping I get paired up with a good team because I’m changing from “hourly salary” with paid OT to regular salary. Really hoping to make good friends at the firm because working in the industry side sucks (based on my experience) mostly because everyone here is 25+ years my senior. So hands down would pick 2, for my mental health lol

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2. Hands down. I could do 1 in the short term but for a long period of time it could really start dragging me down. Then it possibly has an effect on other parts of you life.

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What is there is job security and pension in job #1? I'm in my mid 30s and planning to start a family

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Paid OT, while nice, incentives you to work more. Salary, incentives you to work more efficiently. If you dislike the people or environment you work with/for, the enjoyment you get from the difference in compensation will fade quickly

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Depends on how much you let your work affect your personal life and how tired you can be for your family. I would pick 2 all the way because working with great people means someone has your back higher up and your salary will increase anyway. But if the difference in comp and benefits is enough that you think it would benefit your family and you can tolerate that kind of environment, then #1 is probably ok for you. I just don’t think the stress and mental health problems from a toxic environment are worth it at any price, but that’s a personal choice.

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Well in PA you often get to work in a toxic environment *and* get a fixed salary. Why compromise ?

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2 all day!!

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2 for sure. I worked on a 1 team that had a lot of perks (not OT but a lot of recognition awards and misc others) and just wasn’t worth the social negativity at all. Toxic work environments are just draining of energy and soul.

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If I’m young then 1, if older then 2. But if I’m in PA and the hours are trash either way 1 all the way

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great people

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2. Of you go number will the environment toxicity will burn you down

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2- money is never worth your sanity

This wasn't your question but why can't I have my cake and eat it too? There are definitely companies that combine the best parts of 1 and 2. My goal in life is to find those.

2 of course!

Easily 2... money isn’t worth it

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