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Quick poll: List your gender & a quick sentence on whether you like to work for male or female bosses (ok to say no preference). Me personally - Male - I’ve had better experiences working with male managers. I’ve noticed that more female managers feel disadvantaged and try extra hard to prove themselves (incredulous this happens in 2020), but in the process tend to be more demanding and stressful to work with. This is not intended to offend anyone. Just genuinely looking to learn and grow.

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Female, generally prefer working for female leaders as I’ve gotten more senior in my career. That said, it depends on the firm, situation, personality, and politics at play in the situation.

Generally, I have noticed that female leaders are more likely to treat me as an equal and give equal credit/stage time - while also making space for me to step into next level roles. Men tend to relegate me to pulling together slides, or being on the call but not speaking in it, or worse - working in the background behind the scenes (yes, even at my level). I usually don’t even notice it until I work with a woman and realize what a breath of fresh air it is to be treated like a competent, capable individual who is striving for the next level.

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OP, I can’t figure out what your angle is from your responses so far, mixed with the original “poll.” As a female in an incredibly male dominated environment (I have yet to work on a team with a single other female from my firm) I have more than once been told I can’t attend dinner and/or a meeting because it would be better with just guys. I’m not going to list more examples here, but just taking that one. Legitimate question: do you think being left out of team dinners and happy hours would impact how a woman starts to behave in her career and as a leader or not really?

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I’m saddened to hear this. I personally have never experienced this happening in front of me. And I understand your point - of women behaving differently given these adversities. I wish it didn’t happen and will make it a point that such things don’t happen under my watch as I progress in my career.

I had no angle here. I was trying to gauge if people felt one way or the other. Me, personally, I’ve learnt from the plethora of responses to go out and actively seek strong female bosses/mentors - which I have not done before.

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Male: Male

And I’m unfollowing because I don’t want the shitstorm that’s going to come up on this thread.

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Male : Asian. No preference on gender but I recently found that Asian managers really get things done Masterclass style. Can be rough working for them if you are a noob but if you come in with the right skills things work out well.

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Wel, this entire thread has pretty much shown that all of this diversity and inclusion training has amounted to absolutely zero.😂😂

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Female: male. Honestly I feel that women are harsher on me than men, so I prefer them as mentors but not managers responsible for my performance review.

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As a female leader who has been lifted up by some other incredible women, this makes me so sad to hear, though I’ve heard others share similar stories. I suppose all we can do is work to change the pattern for those that follow us 👊🏼

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Male:Female, I feel I can more quickly gauge if I’m pissing them off or not. Male bosses seem to let things boil under the surface for a while and don’t express themselves until an explosion occurs (yes, I also do this myself)

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Woman that doesn’t have preference though I prefer to manage women. They work harder and are more receptive to feedback and improvement

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I have found them to be far less receptive

Male:Female. My best bosses have been women. They have higher social and emotional intelligence compared to their male counterparts and are more likely to provide genuine and thoughtful feedback.

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Female: Male, I find that male bosses in my firm have helped me grow quicker and generally learn more in tough projects, speak more confidently and it’s unfortunately skewed that females are geared toward PMO roles which I don’t want to be siloed to.

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I'm a female. I'd love to work with a female boss but I have yet to in my 10 year career. That's technology for you 🤷‍♀️

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ditto

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How do you know you aren’t biased against them and thus perceive them this way? Perhaps you aren’t used to women in positions of power over you and find it stressful

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It is also entirely possible, that in the same sense I have encountered blithering idiot male managers, that the same caliber of manager exists in the female realm.

OP, your experience is individual and I encourage you not to generalize it to a much larger population.

Male: Neither ( based on gender alone). My preference is influenced more by personality type and leadership style.

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Male: prefer female, in my experience higher emotional intelligence, great coaches, warmer personality, actually interested in my development, willing to let me shine and give credit where it’s due

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Male: Female. They bullshit less, aren’t sure of their skills so they work harder, better emotional intelligence, more empathetic, understanding etc. And all around warmer to work with.

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Male: no preference. But this question is making me realize that there sure are a lot more dudes at the Partner level.

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Male: Female. The male managers i've had (including my counselor who's a male Partner) have all been fantastic, but I feel like I get more coaching from the female managers i've had vs the males. All have been supportive and wanted to see me succeed, but at least in my anecdotal experience the F's have taken more concrete actions to bring me up vs the M's tend to direct. Sometimes the coaching can get over the top and there is a fine line between micromanagement, but i've enjoyed and had success with the approach so far.

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Female - I’ve honestly had better experiences working with men. I’ve always felt like women have something to prove so at times they are a lot more demanding without realizing the strain they put on you

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I've never met a female leader who was a buffoon, whereas I've encountered quite a few men who had no business being in leadership positions.

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Good point

Male : Male

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I am a (gay) male who prefers working with female. I tend to be able to connect with bosses on a more emotional level than most.

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Especially if they are hot👍👍

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Male: Male. We just GSD. No questions.

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You must not be met some people I have met

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