{ "media_type": "text", "post_content": "Raise your hand if you've almost spilled coffee on yourself while purposely ignoring a beautiful girl in the hallway only so that she thinks that you have shit goin on in your life", "post_id": "58c0ea448ff9150010eb0685", "reply_count": 31, "vote_count": 19, "bowl_id": "5565cfca8b2b9a03009acf57", "bowl_name": "Advertising" }

Raise your hand if you've almost spilled coffee on yourself while purposely ignoring a beautiful girl in the hallway only so that she thinks that you have shit goin on in your life

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Yikes that went left real quick! I know we don't want to be objectified but I honestly think there's nothing wrong if a man finds a woman attractive. He can only know how intellectually attractive she is if/when they begin working together and nothing in his post said they are on the same team...just work in the same office.

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I get what ACD is saying. But we need to exercise self care and control. Maybe take a breath and revisit the post in the AM after a good night's sleep. We don't have to get ourselves worked up over everything, much less social media posts. Now it turned out we are shitting on young love:) Come on, people! It's a new day!

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@ACD1 ...I like the guise of "Strategist" so won't say too much to blow my cover, but I'm pretty senior in this industry as well and considered a strong female. I simply don't believe we have to make every little thing - like a poor guy with a crush spilling his coffee - such a big deal.

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Your fight is going to get lost in the noise if you make a fight out of every little thing. Pick your battles. Focus on things that matter.

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Oh my @ACD1 ....that's a little harsh. @Saatchi was having a vulnerable moment and you just crushed his spirit. Empowering women doesn't have to mean stomping on men

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First off, not a man. Second off, the fact that you assumed OP, Strat 1, and I must all be men because you didn't like what we had to say is absolutely ridiculous.

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Why is acknowledging the girl as beautiful so terrible? It's not like he or she said something degrading about her or even objectified her. Just said she's beautiful and while trying to be coy, they embarrassed themselves. It's human. I think we are all a little too on edge these days. There are some really shitty things in this industry with how women are treated and viewed that are worth getting upset over. Some dude or chick being attracted to someone and acting silly is not one of them.

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The micro aggressions you mention are real and valid. However, someone being attracted to you is not the same as being objectified as a physical object.

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But also, by all means, please keep spilling hot coffee on yourself.

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Am I the only one (as a female) who would have found OPs awkwardness as flattering and not at all offensive?

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I'm kinda depressed that three people upvoted this. In CST it's no longer #IWD, but did you learn nothing? We don't work in advertising as hot walking billboards. You want to impress that beautiful girl at your agency? Become slightly deeper than you sound right now. Because literal shit is all I can garner from this as far as what you have "goin on in your life".

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Microaggressions are very real and I'm not interested in ganging up on anyone. Just asking a question about eye contact.

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ACD1, uh what? As a female, I do the same thing OP was describing. People find other people attractive and get awkward. Nothing crazy, pretty normal for both sexes. I agree with Strategist1, pick your battles. This is not an instance that degrades women or is a micro aggression because men and women both do this. I hate that these days everyone has to tip toe around and watch every damn thing they say or do without offending each other.

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Not that it should matter. But every day women in this industry deal with micro aggressions. I've written scripts for Volkswagen, Apple, Burger King, Coca Cola, and countless other brands I'm legitimately and openly proud of. That does not change the fact that I have been objectified as a physical object countless times. It doesn't count for all the times when men just said that they only meant to say I was pretty. It doesn't account for dudes, like this dude, wondering about how to recover from a funny and awkward coffee spill in front of a girl he likes. Why can't you get that this all sucks? I wish I could trade places for you for a week so you could understand what it's like to be a strong female writer in this industry.

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Honestly curious: why does avoiding eye contact with someone make it feel like you're giving off the vibe that you have your shit together? I see this happen a lot in the hallways and it boggles my mind. Is eye contact overwhelming? Is it shyness? What would happen if you made eye contact, smiled, and said hello?

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@Copywriter1 ....careful, @ACD 1 might see that as a microagression 😐

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If every man who respects women has to stop finding women attractive, the only men reproducing will be the assholes. So I don't think there was anything wrong with the actions in the original post. That said, I think what ACD1 was responding to was less the content but the timing. The first day after an inspirational 24 hours of testaments to the strength of women, a man talking about just their looks and how those looks made his life (comically) hard could easily feel out of touch. So maybe the actions of OP weren't bad or sexist, but the timing and even posting about them on a "professional" app felt tone deaf. I am a man, as that apparently is something people want to know here.

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Goodnight. 😴

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Are you proposing that no man in our industry dare be attracted to any woman? Regard her as beautiful? Should they not ever attempt to peruse one, even if they're respectful?

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Some of these replies are a little long

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@strategist I'm glad you feel you have that right. I'm fighting for those who don't.

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