Received offer from ZS Associates for lead software engineer position Pune
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Amex people thoughts on this offer, as I have recently(4 months back) joined a startup with Base(33) and CTC(35.5) but not enjoying the work here. Amex brand tag and culture is good.
Hence, considering the offer, does this offer look good or is there any scope of improvement? Amex American Express
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Work culture is really cool !
Learning - previously I have worked on C++11. Now, it's my 2nd year I am working on C++ 14/17 and now Rust (functional language just like Scala/clojure), Devops & AWS.
Usually, c++ people don't get the opportunity to work on DevOps/cloud. But i got :P
what perks /benefits Here has ?
I had a couple of friends working in ZS and both of them had their wlb pretty messed up.
But on the other hand the hikes that they got was great.
Like they joined for around 6 LPA as fresher and after around 6 years their CTC was near about 30 LPA in the same company.
ZS is not a very good company for software developers. Atleast 5 years behind in technology compared to other firms.
I’m not really sure about Here tech but since I had worked for several years with ZS i shared my observation. Also the WLB is not that bad in ZS for software developers(SD Group), but no onshore opportunity as well.
Never join ZS. One of my frnds joined there and her wlb went to hell. I saw here working till 1am in night.
Tech stack is same bigdata
Shouldn’t a tech lead earn atleast 60+ LPA fixed 🥲
Chief
Why don't you start a new firm where all tech leads earn 60+?
anyway i dont like either of these i want to switch to some good companies but my bad luck i am nearing to release date from current org. i need to grow towards staff engineer role for some product based mnc recently failed interview in @visa for staff sw engineer role in last leadership round. same happened in vmware..
Chief
If WLB is important then here. But if hikes.. promotions.. projects important then zs
Chief
The point is you should decide what is important to you and choose accordingly.
HERE has good WLB but the company didn’t perform well in recent times. Also no increment this year.
Seeing your offer it’s really good as I see Lead Software eng at around 35L ~
the zs hr says wlb is bad for consuting department but for zaidyn @Zaidyn its not that bad
Ex ZSer here, the money might be good but WLB is hell, you will regret joining ZS and will be looking to switch in no time.
YoE and tech stack ?
Networking , speaking to lot of people , par tum directly ZS se ho toh ZS ka bol sakte ho, hume b firsthand sunne milega 👍🏻
YOE?
9.2 years lead software engineer
for @Here Technologies tech stack is i guess java, scala etc and position is same Lead Software Engineer position. i need to decide between these two pls help me.
Here is a well known in the mapping industry!
--> Variables are always prorated bases in every company the date you join.
--> ZS good in analytical world, however, they are services providers in the End of the day.
--> Here has great problem statements towards EV, ADAS, Cutting edge stacks, etc.
You can decide accordingly!
how is your learning experience in Here Technologies ? How is the work culture. coming from thoughtworks (the work culture is just awesome) i am thinking to join if i get good amount of learning to grow further..
Chief
Wlb is one of the best in HERE.. try negotiating with HERE
Chief
Don’t know bro..
Here is better than ZS
Don't join ZS Bro. As others mentioned WLB is really bad. You will regret later. Specially for lead level. Peace of mind is important.
Ooh hello sirji.. Itna bhi kuch khas kharab nehi hai.. Particularly in SD
Try to avoid ZS in current market condition
problem is i am almost nearing to my release date. i should have asked them 1 week time but could not able to get another offer.
Is Here offering you Permanent WFH? If not you will need to consider the factor of moving to Banglore and in turn need to renegotiate.
It's always better to go for a known one in the current market scenario
Yup👍