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A1's statement is funny, but full of shit. I know quite a few people that do coke recreationally; maybe 6-12x per year. Most of them are high-functioning people that own their own businesses, a couple of whom do better than partners at our firms, and definitely have better work-life balance.
I know these folks are just recreational users and aren't addicts. How? Because I've seen the face of addiction in my own family. My cousin has battled with drugs and alcohol since his high school days (he's now in his 40s), and I've seen him go through 4 rehab stints, extended periods of sobriety (10 years), and seen him fall off the wagon after those extended periods, multiple times.
The group may be using recreationally; I'd say once a month is in the realm of "recreational use." However, the girl you've singled out sounds like she's in the early stages of a serious problem. Using it on a weekly basis is not "recreational," that's more like "frequent user," and if she's just doing lines casually after work like you or I would have a beer, cocktail or glass of wine... well, that's the start of an addiction.
Am I the only one here who thinks that doing coke at all is a serious issue with a huge risk for addiction? OP, your friend is flirting with a very dangerous line that could very easily ruin her life - talk to her and take action. If you save her life and she ends up hating you, that's still a worthy trade IMO.
Diet or Regular?
If she's doing it not to go out that's bad...if it's an occasional weekend thing when going out it's not like having AIDS as A1 is alluding to.
There's no such thing as recreational coke. That's like saying "Hey man...I'm just going to get that recreational AIDS"
Stay out of it. If she is functioning, it is her adult choice.
If she's blowing down lines just to walk the dog, yes that's a problem. If she's doing it before hitting up a hall and oats show no problem
Yeah, A1 is being a sensationalist here. To echo M1, Doing it outside of social settings is concerning, as is doing it in all social settings.
OP... trust me on this...
You can't force help on her. She has to want to help herself.
If she's got a problem (it sounds like she does, or she's at least on the early stages of one), you trying to help her will only result in resentment from her end and denial of any problem.
It might be hard to sit idly by and watch, but the only way I have seen friends and family with addictions clean themselves up is when they've wanted to help themselves, not when others wanted to help them.
Don't bring it up again to her; when she realizes she's got a problem, she'll remember you called her out on it before and she may come to you for help. That's when you can help.
I found out one project team I was occasionally seeing was doing coke almost every week - then learned that a few of those folks were using almost daily for months...they're all gone now; apparently at some point it turns counterproductive.
I thought everyone switched to prescription amphetamines. They're way cleaner than coke. Problem vs recreational is a tough line. Is his/her work impacted? Social life? What makes you think he/she has a problem?
^You're not the only one C1 but it shows you haven't done your research and probably don't know anything about it that you didn't learn in high school health class.
P2 and P4 have the most reasonable takes here
I personally think anyone who does it more than once every month or two may have an addiction. I've done it a few times, and it's admittedly a fun party drug. However, I'm not looking to do lines on random Monday nights.
^most do it for going out at night. Usually doing it in professional settings is one of the signs you are developing a habit
To your first point, tons of people do coke recreationally. It's not abnormal it's just not widely publicized (like weed is) because door knobs like A1 will have a panic attack. Coke is not like heroin in that it's very easy to do it casually and not have an urge to do it again.
That's really good, AC1. Thankfully, this was around ten years ago for me. This friend is now a successful lawyer, but I keep my distance from her bc that situation was just way too painful. I now try to have nothing to do with anyone who uses drugs in any capacity beyond a script from a dr. It is extreme and I'm sure a bunch of people I know are doing drugs that I don't know about, but that's just my way of dealing with it. No joke, her friend OD'd months before that so I am not being hyperbolic. She had a heart condition and every time she did it, she could have died. I knew her family really well and her parents always said how they felt like I was her sister and they could trust me. It KILLED me to not tell them. She begged me not to. Ugh, don't even want to think about it. So yeah, OP, you've got your work cut out for you, should you try to do anything, but like we have said, keep in mind that there is little you can do. Little, but not nothing
Thanks for all of the advice guys. I've tried broaching the topic before & she basically exploded on me, saying I got all of my info from DARE & it was nbd to do it once in a while...but once in a while used to be once a month or less & now it's almost every week.
And M1 and Mck1 can we all hang? 😊
It's funny/interesting the difference in attitudes. After having seen close friends and family deal with addiction, I have a really hard time having a relaxed attitude about hard drug use of any kind. I realize that it makes me no fun in this regard, but I have seen too much suffering to take it lightly. I agree that it is not necessary to take my approach, but I just find it interesting. No judgement at all, but it is is just interesting
Moss Adams sounds like my coke dealer's name