SAFe Agilist Cert - Anyone have one? Currently using methods on an engagement ? Any value here ? Have an iCAgile one now and thinking of growing my Agile knowledge aka get more certs to get more attn.

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BA1 you’ve completely missed how agile at scale works.

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Agile is a joke in my opinion. 7 people can’t deliver a large scale, mission critical system. Instead, take the principles from agile (iterative, incremental, flexibility)

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BA1, that’s why you work for BA. There can be more than one Agile team working towards the same ultimate goal. No one takes 7 people and expects them to build and deliver a massive system with many moving parts. If Agile was a joke don’t you think these massive tech companies that deliver amazing products would be in trouble ?

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BA1 ever heard of SAFe?

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Yeah try developing and rolling out a system used by over 100 government agencies (all of the major ones you can think of) with a team of 7 people. Idiot.

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Any delivery methodology will be as good or bad as how well or poorly it’s executed. Taking for granted for a moment that you have the right resources, Agile, much like any other philosophy, is not a “one size fits all” approach and it will work better in some scenarios compared to others.

That being said, I do find the fundamentals of agile better, but it’s not a catch all for everything.

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I’ve taken 3 agile certifications and found them average at best.

According to those classes, one of the key weaknesses of agile is “the ability to deliver a large scale, mission critical system with 7 people”

OP I have worked for several firms including Accenture. Get off your high horse just because we have conflicting opinions.

And you were probably let go for the ignorant comments you make. I believe you resorted to calling BCG1 an idiot because of conflicting opinions? No one ever said Agile fits all scenarios. You can deliver a large scale mission critical using Agile, but maybe not using one 7 person Agile team. You did not give us an example of what you considered a large scale mission critical system until after BCG1 commented. Then you hit us with a 100 government agency system. No shit you can’t deliver something like that with 7 people. You’re clearly the idiot for using that as an example. Agile barely works in the government in general because of all the damn red tape and antiquated processes. I’m on a govt project and it’s a giant pain. There is a serious culture change needed to be successful with Agile.

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