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More dollars doesn’t necessarily mean better education. That’s a myth.
Yes. Increased school taxes means better education which means higher prospects for all those kids. How are you defining ROI? If strictly financial, you shouldn’t live in a place that thinks children are important since you’ll never receive the benefit of the cost. They will though.
Do you have any evidence that increased school taxes = better outcomes. Every single study that I have seen has shown no, or very little, correlation between per pupil spending and achievement when accounting for other variables.
I mean cutting funding certainly won’t deliver more value
VP1 - there are so many. That is kind of the point. As you perform the multivariate analysis the significance of per pupil spending beyond a certain basic thresh-hold results in little to no improvement in academic achievement.
C1 - What a silly comment. Please tell me that you aren’t working in Strategy?!?!? No one suggested that we should spend less. Nice straw man though.
I am certainly not against paying more in taxes if it results in improved outcome. The problem is that increased spending has not resulted in improved outcomes. The discussion of improvement, and actual improvement to improvement to the education system, is undercut by the continued focus on a variable that has little to no impact. If we want to improve the education system we have to figure out what will work.
We ha e a state income tax and state department of education.
What is also alarming is the amount of money in these school district reserve funds and every year with rising school taxes these reserve funds are punped up even more.
https://www.brookings.edu/research/its-not-nothing-the-role-of-money-in-improving-education/ probably more informative than people taking guesses back and forth
Get rid of all public schools. Government should not be on the business of education.
There is always the inertia that throwing more money at things fixes the problem. Middle and high school kids have to take an interest in the subjects they are learning because money cant make kids achieve success.
Interesting debate for sure. The one variable that sticks out for me is no matter wealthy or poor area, wealthy or poor kid, what makes the difference is parental involvement.
I believe the people who make these decisions are elected officials so if you don’t like them, vote them out.
OP do you live in a state with no state income tax? J/w because we don’t have a specific school tax in my state.
K1 is absolutely right. Any teacher or school administrator will tell you the biggest variable in kid’s success is parental involvement. Showing kids school is important and taking an interest in what they do. That’s way more important than throwing more dollars at schools.
K1, I live in Pennsylvania.
Over the years we have continued to throw money at the problem and children in these districts seem to be losing out on the quality of their education.
Let's look at where the money is going. School districts seem to try and outdo each other in how big and beautiful they can build their schools with swimming pools and the most expensive athletic facilities, with the most current technological features.
We need to reduce the funding of education by the use of property taxes and come up with supplemental methods. I would like to see a state constitutional amendment to eliminate property taxes and give the legislators a two year period to find alternatives to funding before the amendment change in funding takes place.
More money = higher payout for superintendent
I’m not in strategy but that was also mostly a joke. While I don’t think blindly throwing money at it will solve anything, I also think it comes down to what your community is proposing to spend the funds on. In some cases the schools may just need better infrastructure or materials to meet bare minimums of what their students deserve. It’s too big an issue to paint this broadly because every community is different. Now if your district is proposing increases with no accompanying plan, then yeah that’s pretty useless
P1 what are the other variables?
Also, if you pay your home off down the road and have to pay 12000 in school taxes a year - do you really own anything???
I see. I’m in MD so not too familiar with PA but I know there are some schools that are much more successful than others there. Is it a state general fund that your tax dollars go into or is it county by county?
Yes
Most school districts are scrambling to make it work for students. It’s hard and they are trying to deliver a good experience with limited funds.
Then when you add in challenging populations like kiddos with Autism, Downs, ADHD, etc. it’s a miracle what they do.
Yes, your ROI is that you might have a snowball’s chance in hell in having social security and Medicare funded when it’s your turn to collect