Senior associate looking to take the CA bar in February 2022. Any thoughts on the pros/cons of taking the full exam versus the shorter attorney exam? Not planning to work during prep.

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Took the attorneys exam. Passed but would not recommend unless you really trust your writing/essays. You don’t have the benefit of offsetting some mediocre essays with multiple choice. I was stressed out studying the whole time knowing the margin for error was low and felt like I barely passed by the seat of my pants. If you’re good at multiple choice and can stomach the extra day, I would do the full but this is just based on my own experience. Others may tell you differently.

This is a bad take. Historically essay scores are basically always higher than the MC based on the actual stats. A few people may benefit from MC but the average person is hurt by it and should just do the shortened one.


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