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Serious replies only please - Why haven't we established a union already?

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Like other professions, we have organizations to protect our wages by making the barriers to entry high and to advocate for our interests with the politicians. As for bargaining with the owners, that has a very different relationship in a partnership than a corporation. So what would this union of yours have to do?

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Unions are like big government. One more hand in the cookie jar. If you feel overworked and underpaid, they can take care of one of those problems. But usually production workers are unionized and management isn't. How do you draw that line in accounting? And who wants to pay $400 a month in union dues? Not me.

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Because the last thing I want is to protect duds from getting fired and getting said duds stuck on my team

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I think since the entire industry is based on talent, it is very feasible. We could probably improve busy season hours if we did start one. Let me know where to sign up!

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Conservative State Tax Counsel strikes again! What a dumb liberal idea!

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Too competitive. High turnover. Too competitive.

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Terrible idea

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Lol they can certainly be unionzed. Most countries besides the US have white collar unions. They're just unnecessary. We already have a good amount of bargaining power, pay, benefits, (look at the escalation of pay and benefits over the years, especially in tech), safety, and security. Plus negotiating contracts would be an absolute nightmare considering the differing salaries, specialization, and experience. No one wants to do it, otherwise it would have been done.

Blue collar jobs are replaceable, have streamlined pay structures, and historically were treated like crap, underpaid, and unsafe. That's why they fought like hell to organize.

FYI we do not have tough work conditions

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Unions have historically been a blue collar thing. Professional Associations, like the AICPA, kind of serve in that role for white collar fields. The AICPA isn't going to fight for higher wages for us, but they will ensure our certification stays valuable.

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The fees. Seriously it would change so much, not just the hours, and not for the good. Haven't seen any profession unionized. Plus it's just a Lib idea

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Have you seen our education system?

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Ask anyone in a union how much the fees suck and how little the actually do for you. Also, I'm not sure how this industry is based on "talent" when there's an endless supply of people willing to takeover for us. Besides, big 4 has endless resources so doubtful we could ever compete with them financially.

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people at public accounting have alternatives to jump into industry, so there's no urgency to form union.

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You get made like a mob boss

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Public Accounting has an off balance sheet deferred compensation plan. It pays out when you make partner. If you don't make partner, it's lost. It's what should incentivize us to work as hard as we do.

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How would the transition to partner work?

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The AICPA seems to only exist to make up new certifications that lack value/devalue the CPA (PFP cert, ABV, etc.) and tell me how the CPA pipeline is not filled with enough talent.

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Just what we need. Some union fat cats living off our paychecks. Learn how to negotiate for yourself. This isn't 1930.

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^agreed, nice response. When I said can't be unionized, I didn't mean it in a factual way. I meant in a practical way.

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we should start unionizing by anonymous sign up and announce after achieving certain %. for those of you who do not know the history of labor fights, lawyers were not paid as much as they are today decades ago but they fought.

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^ those are literally opposite sentiments.

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