Shared this with the team today to highlight that us managers pushback on out of hour work requests, and we’ll support them if they do it too.

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Maybe one day I’ll have a backbone like this 🥹


Out of curiosity, do you think you pushed back because of tenure/seniority with the firm or team? I’d say 8/10 people wouldn’t have the balls to do this. Still appreciate the message and example you are setting.


Boundaries! Everyone should have them. Think about all the negative things you go through in life because you have no idea/or the courage to set them. Good for you 💪🏼 tenure, seniority, race should never dictate you setting them. The people already programmed won’t understand.


Post it on r/antiwork for more Internet fake points.


OP, not implying anything bad.

I am actually saying what you did is excellent. That subrredit is full of people breaking the "saty late at work" norms.

Internet point have no intrinsic value, but what you did is priceless! And I think you should share it with that subreddit. Here's a gold star ⭐

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I honestly never knew that anything other than No was an answer.

I've been saying No since my teen years, to coworkers, managers, directors, VPs, executives, etc. Whenever I say that, people always do that kind of, suck in their breath, and then ask, did you ever get in trouble/fired/have conflict/etc?
No I didn't.

I always had a valid reason for a No and didn't back down. Maybe it was my attitude, my reasons, maybe I just always got lucky with reasonable people on the other end of my No, etc, but really never had any issues.

And over the years I've watched coworkers get walked all over, stressed from too much work, take on too much, work too many hours, etc.

No has always been in my work vocabulary, should be in everyone's.

*Always exceptions to everything, use good judgement still of course


I think it sets a good example for the team members to see that their manager will do it. There are definitely team members who tend to be “pleasers” or are afraid to push back. I told my team many times not pushing back is just going to enable this sort of behavior and perpetuate it to the point of being acceptable. Ironically, where I worked, it was usually ambitious peer levels that took this tone. When they threatened to escalate, I’d hand them my bosses phone number and tell them good luck.


You don't have to be confrontational to say no. A simple "I won't have time today, let's meet first time in the morning" works if you want to be very assertive.


MC needs to settle down.


That looks all too familiar to me. Love seeing it. I used to push back on this sort of thing and many times it was because a team member was already gone for the day and they wanted me to bring them back online for something that was non emergency. I had no tolerance for people who didn’t respect other peoples time and it was usually people who were trying to make a name for themselves on someone else’s back.


Good for you. Set your boundaries. Expect repercussions and retaliation. In the long run you must do this for yourself.


As a BIPOC, I’d imagine I’d get fired in a few weeks and definitely get a poor review beforehand.


I completely support setting boundaries, but isn’t there a better way to approach it? Sharing this exchange with your team members could unnecessarily demonstrate dysfunction on the leadership team, which could cause further discontent, rather than just reinforcing your support for their work/life balance through your actions. Of course, I don’t have the context to know if this is an ongoing issue that has been escalated to this point, though this approach feels toxic to me.


Being firm is not disrespecting leadership

Did this and was told I wasn't a team player and had a negative attitude. Good thing this employer laid me off. Best thing ever.


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